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Seeking advice from GR owners...

Hi fellow GR owners!

We have a 3 month old GR puppy. Yes, hair all over the place but we're managing

May I ask for assistance with the following from experienced GR owners:

a) If we create a dog run/kennel in the backyard as an option for him to get fresh air (will not substitute for walking). So, the kids can let him out in the backyard when they return from school. We wanted to have a dog run because of the raccoon poop and pee inthe backyard.

If I make a dog run/kennel (without a cover), will raccoons get into it?

b) As much as we enjoy our pup, we want to avoid him entering the kitchen and living room. How can we train him to stay away from both?
If we put up pet gates, when can we take them down to give him free run of the house without doing damage?

c) We are looking at insurance in Canada and are unsure of whether or not we should get it for a GR. What are your thoughts?

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I have a chain link fenced in area off my deck for the purpose you describe, a way to let Rukie out for a quick trip or to hang out a little, while I am home. It is about 20'x30' so it's okay for a potty and puppy exercise but now that he's full grown we have to go outside the fence to get a good run.
He never stays out there when we are gone. We have had possums and rabbits come in the fence. I don't know why because there is absolutely no food, water, plants nothing but the same grass as is outside the fence. I know the bunnies come through the gap on the double gate and even the single gate. We may get some kind of mesh to stop them if the creepy possums keep coming. I've seen Rukie chase the bunny out (big fun) and it almost appears they morph right through the chain link. They can scoot under even though it's about as close to the ground as it can be. There are raccoons and skunks around but I have not seen them come in, yet. My fence is 5 feet high and I really don't know about something coming over the top. Last week 3 coyotes ran by at night--talk about scary.
For your question "b" you will probably have to put up gates to keep him out while you are in those rooms. Goldens want to be right there with their people. The age to allow free run on the house depends so much on the dog. Rukie is a good boy and doesn't mess with stuff that's not his so he was able to be free around 9-10 months old with gradually lengthening amounts of time. Some dogs need a lot longer to be allowed freedom like that--maybe even two years and some dogs are never allowed unsupervised freedom.

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For the kitchen and living room - do you mean you never want him in those rooms for his whole life? Or just as a puppy? If it's his whole life, you have chosen the wrong breed. They are people-oriented and want to be with their people all the time. Those are two rooms where families spend most of their time.

If you mean just while you are training as a puppy - much easier. You can baby gate off any rooms you don't want him in, where you can't supervise, where you have carpet, 100% of the time while he's a puppy. Usually by the time he is soldily house trained and beyond the destructive phase, he'll be about 8-9 months old, and when you introduce those rooms, he will probably not do anything. You will know when he's housetrained (probably solid by 6 months or so) and once he is not chewing (probably around 8 months) so you make the decision of when to start expanding his world (under supervision).

Insurance is a decision that you have to make for yourself. If your dog is from a breeder who did not do proper health clearances, I would get it for sure. But Goldens are also very prone to cancers, even if they come from great breeders who do all the clearances, and that can be very expensive (think $10,000++). I have catastrophic accident/illness insurance (ie. it does not cover wellness, spay/neuter, etc). There are several options in Canada that you can look into. I have Trupanion and have been really happy with them.

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As far as keeping your dog out of the kitchen and dining room, it can be done and is reasonable, in my opinion. My dog is 20 months old and still cannot be allowed in the kitchen unsupervised, especially if there is food, paper, or tissues around. He is a notorious counter surfer and resource guarder. Part of managing the resource guarding is limiting his opportunities which means no unsupervised time in the kitchen. Adults must be supervising. Period. We keep a kitchen gate up at all time.

Asher is really only allowed in the living room, not the bedrooms. We keep him crated in our bedroom. The naughty dog will eat anything he finds: legos, socks, paper, name it. He simply cannot be unsupervised, both for his own safety, and for the safety of our kids due to the resource guarding. Either he will grow out of it (eating unauthorized things-I doubt the resource guarding will permanently resolve) or my kids will grow better about keeping their things picked up and put away. One or the other will happen, hopefully sooner than later.

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What's the big deal about raccoons?

They are mostly nocturnal....

I ASSUME you aren't planning on keeping the dog outside at night???????

My sister and her family have a big BIG pen that they put up in their house. Currently it's wrapped around their treadmill to keep the kids off, but had been utilized to keep their dog (St. Bernard) out of the living room. Another baby gate kept him out of the dining room.

He is still not permitted in the dining room (because the kids will feed him), but he's now allowed in the living room (he just lies around).

Me personally, the whole reason to get dogs is to have loving sweet shadows who are everywhere you are. <= Mine are puppy piled under my feet (and yes, I'm sitting in our living room).

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I would strongly recommend pet insurance. Denver came from parents with clearances going back generations, but we still opted to get insurance. We did not want to have to decide between treatment that could save his life...or the alternative. Especially for accidents or illness, dysplasia and cancer included. We already met our deductible for the year, so now they will cover us 80%.

Denver has to have eye surgery in 2 weeks....he was born with an imperforate puncta in his right basically his tear duct did not form properly. Insurance is covering 80% and we are very thankful for that!

We have Figo, and really like it.
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