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Dear, I am not the one you need to convince. You are just making maneuvres to dillute the subject.
My beliefs system is fixed and will not change which is the welfare of animals and their rights.
It is very much clear that we are living on a total different dimension and any discussion will be unnecessary because there is nothing to discuss about.
Your opinion and my opinion differ from eachother since we present totally two different poles of approach to pet ownership.
Let's say all my dogs are sitting on the couches and there is no place to sit for me. I am the one who end up sitting on the floor and one of my priorities are the health treatment & lodging of rescued animals. Therefore, I will be not a good counterpart for you to prove your point to. When you witness the death of your rescued or own dogs in which you invested that much effort , believe me seeing the elderly or sick ones countersurfing them is a delight for me. It is a sign that they still hang on. Having bought them, rescued them, adopted them does not give me or any human being the right for interfering with their nature. It does not make me their boss or god. It is a personal choice and I accept the full package from the beginning with their all pros and cons. They do not ask from me to be rescued and it does not give me any title over them .

However, if you want your point to reach more people , you can always start a discussion at change.org with title " Stop banning e-collars" or hopefully the time will arrive when all the states will ban e-collars and you will have plenty to discuss with authorities.
Oh wow. Dogs don’t get the couch if a person wants it around here.


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Oh wow. Dogs don’t get the couch if a person wants it around here.
This means, our thesis cannot compete because they cannot even compare
Try someone else or somewhere else....
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This means, our thesis cannot compete because they cannot even compare
Try someone else or somewhere else....

Oh I know what it means....


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This has got to be one of the weirdest threads out there

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[QUOTE=K9-Design;7731066]This has got to be one of the weirdest threads out there[/QUOTE


Different..that's for sure!
Personally, I will stick with the squirt gun idea! LOL
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They have been talking about this on the radio a lot lately and it makes me think of this thread every time.



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