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I've read this post twice.... it's been a long time since we had a puppy in the house... and we were 11 years younger then!!!! Yikes!

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Thank you so VERY much for this! It could not have come at a better time. I lost my 9 year old golden last summer and now have an almost 4 month old. He is quite challenging at times and I've been wondering what I am doing wrong or why it's such a struggle sometimes. You helped me realize that: 1) it's been a long time since I've had a puppy and 2) this is all part of the growing up phase. I miss my sweet adult boy so much and it's not fair to judge mature adult behavior to baby puppy behavior. You've given me much needed perspective and renewed resolve for the days ahead. Thank you!!
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Thank you so VERY much for this! It could not have come at a better time. I lost my 9 year old golden last summer and now have an almost 4 month old. He is quite challenging at times and I've been wondering what I am doing wrong or why it's such a struggle sometimes. You helped me realize that: 1) it's been a long time since I've had a puppy and 2) this is all part of the growing up phase. I miss my sweet adult boy so much and it's not fair to judge mature adult behavior to baby puppy behavior. You've given me much needed perspective and renewed resolve for the days ahead. Thank you!!
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Thank you so VERY much for this! It could not have come at a better time. I lost my 9 year old golden last summer and now have an almost 4 month old. He is quite challenging at times and I've been wondering what I am doing wrong or why it's such a struggle sometimes. You helped me realize that: 1) it's been a long time since I've had a puppy and 2) this is all part of the growing up phase. I miss my sweet adult boy so much and it's not fair to judge mature adult behavior to baby puppy behavior. You've given me much needed perspective and renewed resolve for the days ahead. Thank you!!
You're welcome - I'm glad that it could help!
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Great post - never had kids, and it's been 15 years since I had a pup.
He's just turned 3 months, so the timing is perfect. thanks, and kudos to whoever suggested making it a sticky.
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Bumping this up again, because it's such a great read for new puppy owners.

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A puppy is certainly not a problem, but he IS a project. He looks to us for guidance, for comfort, for safety, for his entire existence. It is up to us to do our best to help him to be a dog that is welcome almost anywhere. I don't agree that a well behaved dog is an empty shell. I actually take offense, to be honest. I have never had a Golden who wasn't a big goofball, for lack of a better term. But there are basic things that every adult dog should know and it is our job to teach them. Mine have always been well behaved goofballs! But I am reading here that we are not supposed to train our puppies for obedience? Their whole existence is to please us. It does not make them empty in any way.
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A puppy is certainly not a problem, but he IS a project. He looks to us for guidance, for comfort, for safety, for his entire existence. It is up to us to do our best to help him to be a dog that is welcome almost anywhere. I don't agree that a well behaved dog is an empty shell. I actually take offense, to be honest. I have never had a Golden who wasn't a big goofball, for lack of a better term. But there are basic things that every adult dog should know and it is our job to teach them. Mine have always been well behaved goofballs! But I am reading here that we are not supposed to train our puppies for obedience? Their whole existence is to please us. It does not make them empty in any way.
Well, you took that line completely out of context. She is not saying a well-behaved dog is an empty shell, but that intimidation, fear and punishment may create a dog that does nothing but sit there, afraid of the potential ramifications of making a mistake. Many people feel that a submissive or scared dog is an obedient dog.
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Well, you took that line completely out of context. She is not saying a well-behaved dog is an empty shell, but that intimidation, fear and punishment may create a dog that does nothing but sit there, afraid of the potential ramifications of making a mistake. Many people feel that a submissive or scared dog is an obedient dog.
I don't ever punish a puppy. I never give him a time out in his crate because I want him to see it as his own special place, not a jail. I don't scold him if he pees in the house (actually he stopped having accidents 2 weeks after we brought him home, anyway). So I get all of that. But I also don't agree with completely puppy proofing my house and just letting him roam around, jumping on any furniture he pleases, counter surfing, etc. Those things need to be worked on right from the start.

I think every breed is different and there is no book or person that can tell you what is best. Goldens are naturally good dogs in my opinion. The only problem they have is that they are a little TOO social when it comes to people and it's hard to restrain them. That is the one thing I want to work on with my newest puppy, but I'm not sure it's possible.

All in all, with everything I'm reading and with what I'm being taught in the latest round of puppy school, I'm realizing that after all the puppies I have raised I really don't need anyone's advice. It's nice to commiserate with others but I realize now that I've done this enough times to just go with my instincts. I am already seeing our 12 week old turning into a pleasant family dog, and we really haven't done much except love him and say "down" and "off" every once in a while. He still has those moments where he flies through the room and then attacks me with those teeth, but they are getting fewer and further in between. I keep him cordoned off in the kitchen and den, but I am slowly opening up more doors and giving him a tiny bit more freedom every day. I even have the bathroom door open now and he seems to have gotten over the toilet paper fetish!
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I don't ever punish a puppy. I never give him a time out in his crate because I want him to see it as his own special place, not a jail. I don't scold him if he pees in the house (actually he stopped having accidents 2 weeks after we brought him home, anyway). So I get all of that. But I also don't agree with completely puppy proofing my house and just letting him roam around, jumping on any furniture he pleases, counter surfing, etc. Those things need to be worked on right from the start.

I think every breed is different and there is no book or person that can tell you what is best. Goldens are naturally good dogs in my opinion. The only problem they have is that they are a little TOO social when it comes to people and it's hard to restrain them. That is the one thing I want to work on with my newest puppy, but I'm not sure it's possible.

All in all, with everything I'm reading and with what I'm being taught in the latest round of puppy school, I'm realizing that after all the puppies I have raised I really don't need anyone's advice. It's nice to commiserate with others but I realize now that I've done this enough times to just go with my instincts. I am already seeing our 12 week old turning into a pleasant family dog, and we really haven't done much except love him and say "down" and "off" every once in a while. He still has those moments where he flies through the room and then attacks me with those teeth, but they are getting fewer and further in between. I keep him cordoned off in the kitchen and den, but I am slowly opening up more doors and giving him a tiny bit more freedom every day. I even have the bathroom door open now and he seems to have gotten over the toilet paper fetish!
It is possible to help them learn good puppy manners when greeting people. We have worked with our, now 5 month old, using treats and praise and have taught him to sit, when meeting new people. He now does it without being told, he must sit before people acknowledge him and pet him. He still has wild puppy moments, but when greeting people, isn't like the other pups at his puppy school. We do, however, still have to leave some doors closed as he likes to drag his blanket up on our bed and chew his blanket, of course he can't tell the difference between his and our blanket also have to make a conscious effort to close lid on all toilets, as they are "endless" water bowls.
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