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Inbreeding or Linebreeding?

I found the K9Data site thanks to this page when I got my Jax. I have been looking through it and just clicking on different dogs links. I am finding that A LOT of the dogs that I am finding have a lot of the same dog's in their history. Some about 3-5 generations back but some of them much closer. Here is the that I found for one where it looks like his mom and dad had the same dad. Is that even allowed??? lol I was shocked to see this!

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Eng CH Paudell Easter Plantagenet at Kerrien contributes 14% genetic influence on the dog in question.
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Not a breeder, but it looks like inbreeding if both parents had the same father. ? I'm curious what the a breeder tells you.
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What would Grandfather to grandaughter be considered?

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I should clarify that this dog is not related to my Jax* I have just been looking at other puppies as we are thinking of getting another in a few months. The dog that I referenced above is linked to one of the litters that I saw advertised Thanks for your input!
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What would Grandfather to grandaughter be considered?
Well, I know what they call it for us two footers.

I hope a breeder comments 'cause I'm curious.
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There isn't a single championship on any of the dogs in that boys line. Linebreeding is measured on the COI... but if these people can't get a championship on any dog there's definitely not a trait or look they are trying to isolate.
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What would Grandfather to grandaughter be considered?
Line-breeding.


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There isn't a single championship on any of the dogs in that boys line. Linebreeding is measured on the COI... but if these people can't get a championship on any dog there's definitely not a trait or look they are trying to isolate.
That's not true, the dog in question (Pedigree: Eng CH Paudell Easter Plantagenet at Kerrien) is an English CH and there are a number of titled dogs in his pedigree.

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Generally in animal husbandry it is called inbreeding when it involves first degree relatives--siblings, half-siblings, parent-offspring. Breeding to a cousin, or grandparent etc would be considered linebreeding. The closer that relative is in the pedigree and the more times common dogs appear the closer that linebreeding becomes. If you linebreed on a linebred dog the pedigree can become very tight in a hurry. I find COI's and especially the degree of influence of particular dogs in the pedigree to be more informative than worrying about anthropomorphized familial relationships.

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