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Is it good if the COI is 0% on both mother and father of a puppy?
You would want to see the COI on the litter, and also the health and genetics behind both parents. A litter with low COI from parents with a history of hip dysplasia behind them is not a good thing.

A COI in and of itself is almost meaningless without background information on the pedigree.

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Is it good if the COI is 0% on both mother and father of a puppy?

Is this a theoretical question or did you actually find a dog who has a COI listed as 0??

That really shouldn't be possible because at some point in time, all goldens are related and so if you go back far enough, there will be common ancestors.

A COI in and of itself, doesn't give you much information. You still need the health histories behind the dogs in question to really know what the COI means.

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I have seen dogs with COI's of 0 in k9data... remember they sometimes only follow to the 6th or 8 th generation, so 0 is very possible. When you are talking about COI's you need to also look at how far they are carried out.

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I looked up the parents of my soon to be puppy and they were both "COI 0" What exactly is the COI? In looking through both dogs pedigree on K9 Data I see some like names in both female and male ancestry. Does k9Data figure the COI based on pedigree or is this something the breeder adds?

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Does k9Data figure the COI based on pedigree or is this something the breeder adds?
It is calculated using the input pedigrees. Since it is an open database and anyone can enter info at times there are problems due to wrong information being entered.

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I looked up the parents of my soon to be puppy and they were both "COI 0" What exactly is the COI? In looking through both dogs pedigree on K9 Data I see some like names in both female and male ancestry. Does k9Data figure the COI based on pedigree or is this something the breeder adds?

The COI's are a five generation COI.
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The COI's are a five generation COI.

Unless it has recently changed the COIs in K9Data were 10 and 12 generation derived.

There is a 5 generation pedigree option, as opposed to the "standard" 3 generation pedigree.

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Unless it has recently changed the COIs in K9Data were 10 and 12 generation derived.
That's assuming that there are enough dogs included in the database to run the COI If there are a lot of unknowns it may not go back very far or be very accurate. The program and calculation can only be as good or thorough as the information put into it.

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I entered Riley's info into k9 data last week and checked today to see how his COI came out. It came out to be a 9.13%.
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It's not uncommon to not find alot of champions in an English Champion pedigree. Getting a championship in England is much harder than getting an American championship.
In America, even with a good dog, it can be a marathon more than a sprint unless you really know what you are doing with timing/judge choices etc. I don't think I could do it if it were any harder!

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