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Any info on Teddy?

Teddy, Pedigree: BISS Am./Can. CH Gold-Rush's Great Teddy Bear OS SDHF, is a dog that appears very frequently in Golden pedigrees, especially conformation dogs. When looking at a 5 generation longevity pedigree for another dog I noticed that Teddy only lived to 6.5 yrs but there is no COD in his k9data entry. Does anyone know his COD or have any additional info on him?


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That is a good question. He shows up in my dog's pedigree 8 or 9 generations back through Kirby. His son, Goldwing True Bear (Pedigree: Am. CH Goldwing True Bear OS SDHF) lived to be nearly 12 years old, but there is COD for him either.
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He shows up (way back) in my girls pedigree as well - several times :-), through Rush Hills Haagen Dos. If you look on k9data you can not only select the 5 generation view but you can also show longevity. And while Teddy was only 6.5 most of his offspring lived well into double digits.
Have you tried contacting the Rush Hills Kennels?
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Why not go right to Gold Rush to see if you can get any info?? They are still “in business” but has had some problems more recently. BTW I do believe that Teddy’s sire was a pretty famous golden.

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I am quite positive he was either the father or grandfather of the boy we had when I was a kid. I remember my father mentioning his name, because of the Great Teddy Bear. And by his age, it only makes sense that he would have been dad or granddad (my puppy was born in 1980). Probably dad, as my pup's kennel name was "Toki's Gold Rush..." (Token was the mother) I wish I knew more about that pup's pedigree. I put him in K9Data, but without knowing for sure that Goldrush's Great Teddy Bear was the father, I don't want to put him as sire. Anyway. Sorry. Totally an aside to this thread.

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Good luck is getting an answer. I know of at least a dozen or more known breeders who have asked and not one has received a direct up front answer.

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I was going to say that... decided against ...but I am glad you did.
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I really wish there were a reliable source of factual information on the dogs that appear frequently in the Golden pedigrees. Not just health information but details of what made this dog one that everybody wanted to breed to. What kind of temperament did they have. What were their particular strengths. What size were they. Pictures of them engaged in whatever activities they pursued and who handled them. Maybe the GRCA could start a program that would have a profile of any dog receiving an OS, OD, DDHF, SDHF, OBHF, FC, AFC, etc. When you're trying to learn about the breed, it's frustrating to find that information about these dogs often seems to be passed in off the record conversations among breeders and enthusiasts who may or may not have accurate information. I understand that breeders are protective of information about their dogs and every dog must have some weakness, but when a dog becomes so influential in the breed it seem appropriate to have some reliable information publicly available. JMHO.


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I am quite positive he was either the father or grandfather of the boy we had when I was a kid. I remember my father mentioning his name, because of the Great Teddy Bear. And by his age, it only makes sense that he would have been dad or granddad (my puppy was born in 1980). Probably dad, as my pup's kennel name was "Toki's Gold Rush..." (Token was the mother) I wish I knew more about that pup's pedigree. I put him in K9Data, but without knowing for sure that Goldrush's Great Teddy Bear was the father, I don't want to put him as sire. Anyway. Sorry. Totally an aside to this thread.
So, I actually went back on K9Data last night, and found a sibling of my old dog - and was able to confirm that Great Teddy Bear was my dog's father. So I would love to know the COD, too. FWIW, that dog of mine died of cancer at age 9.

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No one is going to say anything in writing/public about Teddy and Bear's influence on the breed.
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