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Need help finding Sampson's Littermates/Pedigree

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I have a 9 year old Golden that I purchased from Signature Gold Goldens in Southern Maine in February of 2008. He was born in October of 2007. Mom was Keiko and Dad was Casanova (from Nautilus kennel). I'm trying to find owners of dogs from the same litter or same parents to find out if any of them experienced health problems. Sampson came with a health guarantee and has had more health problems than either of my previous Goldens. He was diagnosed with hip dysplasia at 9 months and he now has dilated cardiomyopathy, protein-losing nephropathy, liver disease, and hypothyroidism. Can anyone give me tips for finding Sampson's siblings?

Sampson and I thank you!
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I looked in K9data and found no litters sired by Casanova (Nautilus Purple Passion) born in October of 2007. I also searched for dogs named Keiko since that is rather unusual and about half a dozen dogs showed up, none of them seem logical matches for the time frame (or, they were males). So k9data appears to be a dead end from the information you've given.
Did you ever have Sampson registered with the AKC? It is easy to look up any other registered littermates if you have his AKC number, in AKC's online database.

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I found a Facebook page for signature gold goldens... dated 10/14/2016 with a picture of a pup named KADA "Keiko's Great Grand"
Guessing there is a relationship somewhere. I don't do Facebook so information is limited but thought you might want to explore.
Guess you could post that you are looking for litter mates but leave out the reason to get a better chance of responses.
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We never registered Sampson. I found the same information that you found on k9data. I'm going to keep digging. I appreciate your response!
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Yes, she has a website, but I doubt I'd get any response if I asked her directly. I took her to court over the hip issue when Sampson was a year old (I lost) so she's not my biggest fan. I believe Kada is the daughter of one of Sampson's littermates that the breeder kept, so she is Keiko's grand-daughter. Keiko's hip status was never posted on the OFA website so, that raised a red flag for me early on. I was able to find Casanova's hip status so I knew his hips were good. Based on the breeder's facebook page, it appears that both Keiko and the sibling from Sampson's litter that she kept (Koda) passed away last October. If there are health issues associated with Keiko, she shouldn't have kept breeding her. And now she is breeding her grand-daughters.

Finding Sampson's other siblings won't help Sampson's health. I'm just curious if others from his litter had similar issues.

Thanks for your response.
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I sort of figured there was no love lost between you but unaware of a law suit. So I did find an offspring on Ofa.org for Nautilus Purple Passion that was born 10/7/2007 - Ripley's White Wedding, call name "Billie" but her mom was named Gold-Rush Ripley's Ruby Tuesday, call name Ruby not Keiko... busy boy.
I had some issues with my breeder too but certainly not to the level you experienced. I have often wondered about the other pups in the litter so can completely understand wanting to know. I'm sorry for having so many problems with Sampson, life isn't supposed to be this hard for either of you.
Good luck on your quest and hope you get some responses.
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I found a littermate: Pedigree: Koda Dakota Of Signature Gold

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This is Amy from Signature Gold Goldens & I feel really bad for Sampson because he really deserves a home with someone who loves him completely. From day one you were worried about the price of your puppy And just days after you got your puppy you called saying if he has any problems I can get a refund right. I offered to take him back right from the start because you were worried about the cost of your puppy. Later you tried to take us to court for $5500 & you lost. you tried to say that your puppy could have hip issues in the future, and that is why you brought us to court & yes they are known for that as golden retriever bred & as we showed you in court all hip test done which are not just our dogs but their parents parents and many many generations back, all our dogs are from top breeders all over the us & even Europe. At the time you bought Sampson he was $1200. Lucky you because my dogs I buy to breed are $3500-$4500 And you are right my dog keiko did die 2016 and she was 12 1/2 old, God Bless her she was an amazing dog & a great companion & she was Sampson mom. In all my years as a breeder, you are my only person to complain. I Saw your post on google and if this slander continues I will have no choice but to file a defamation lawsuit.
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@Amy - I agree it's insane taking a breeder to court over hip dysplasia.

Did have a question though for both you and the OP on some of the other things listed....

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He was diagnosed with hip dysplasia at 9 months and he now has dilated cardiomyopathy, protein-losing nephropathy, liver disease, and hypothyroidism
I think that hypothyroidism needs to be stricken from the list because it is so common, particularly with older dogs.

The liver disease and kidney disease (protein-losing nephropathy) - are concerning if this happened when he was young. If they were late onset - the questions I would ask is what had been fed or given to the dog early on or through his life which may have contributed to both conditions. From what I understand... if it occurs later in life, it can be caused by a variety of things. Sometimes medications (prolonged use of pain meds or medications). Sometimes contact with toxins. Sometimes food (if fatty or poor quality food). Sometimes just simply aging or affects of something else (like the enlarged heart).

The enlarged heart is something that brings to mind the taurine deficiency thing that everyone is hyping up right now. Was wondering if anyone thought that could be tested at this point?

Or going back to the breeder - have you heard from anyone else?

I'm asking because I'm trying to decide if I'm "worried" about the Taurine stuff going around to the extent of getting my boys tested or not. Have never had heart issues with any of my dogs. But I do know people who oddly lose multiple dogs (of different breeds and kept in shape) to heart failure.

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