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Question about breeding and pedigree

Looking at a possibly getting a new family member and have an uneducated question:
Is there a problem with having the male's great great grandfather (only way I know to say this) and the female's father being the same dog having a litter?
Is this too much? Paranoia?
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Depends on the dog?

You will see dogs like Asterling Wild Blue Yonder, Rush Hill's Haagen Dazs, Faera's Future Classic... dogs like that - show up multiple times in a pedigree because of line breeding. It's not necessarily a bad thing.


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An influential dog with great structure, good clearances, and a good production record could be good thing. Some dog with out those things...no.


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Like she said-depends on the dogs. Brackett's theory of dog breeding, broken down into its simplest form says

Brackett liked to use one important dog and have it appear twice in a three-generation pedigree. The basic formula he preferred can be stated as follows, "Let the sire of the sire become the grand sire on the dam's side". Said another way, “ let the father's father become the mothers grandfather”.

He assumes, of course, that this is an outstanding male free of any known disease.

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http://breedingbetterdogs.com/pdfFil...tts_fomula.pdf

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Thanks for the quick replies. He is "SDHF Pointed" my ignorance doesn't allow me to know what that means..
So paranoia?...

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Like she said-depends on the dogs. Brackett's theory of dog breeding, broken down into its simplest form says

Brackett liked to use one important dog and have it appear twice in a three-generation pedigree. The basic formula he preferred can be stated as follows, "Let the sire of the sire become the grand sire on the dam's side". Said another way, “ let the father's father become the mothers grandfather”.

He assumes, of course, that this is an outstanding male free of any known disease.

The article is here

http://breedingbetterdogs.com/pdfFil...tts_fomula.pdf
With that said, we should have this exact dog?
Just really want healthy and a great pet.. Show quality isn't my goal.
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SDHF = Show Dog Hall of Fame. Takes Group placements to get the points.
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I think a show-bred litter should get you a more correct dog. Most show bred litters have pet puppies.
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I think your need for a healthy great pet would be perfectly satisfied by a reputable bred show or performance litter. Reputable show breeders are trying to produce a structurally correct dogs with generations of health clearances behind them to give your puppy a better chance of also being structurally sound and healthy.

Here is a great blog that talks about show bred dogs. She is knowledgable and witty.
I don’t want a show dog; I just want a pet. | Ruffly Speaking


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I would definitely discuss this with the breeder. The good and bad traits of this dog in question. Is he still alive? Does he have offspring? Any early deaths in the pedigree. They might be pretty puppies (structurally) but you also want to stack the odds in your favors for a healthy puppy.

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