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Besides, any suggestions on the dog feed? Or Royal Canine is good enough? I also heard good reviews on Purina Pro.

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If she is overweight, she also may not be as interested in the dog food because she just isn't hungry enough. I kept my cousin's dog for a couple weeks; she was overweight and they had been force feeding her because she wouldn't eat much and they were worried. When I kept her, I put down her food bowl in the morning for 15 minutes and then picked it up and didn't offer it to her again until the evenings; put it down for 15 minutes in the evening and then picked it up and she didn't get any again til morning. She went about a day without eating anything at all, then decided she was hungry and ate some of her food, then after a couple days she ate it when it was available. She simply wasn't hungry and they had been force feeding her thinking they were doing her a favor when all she needed was less food and a little weight loss. When you do switch her to only dog food with human food as an occasional treat, it is very likely she may not eat it well at first because she is trying to hold out for the human food, but don't give in, she will eat the dog food when she is hungry enough!



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I'm going to go against the stream here and actually support the addition of "people food" to your dog's diet. If you choose to feed your dog a manufactured kibble you are essentially feeding them a food that has had all the life cooked out of them (that's one of the reason most have natural or artificial vitamins added back in - it's replacing the nutrients that are destroyed when the "food" ingredients are cooked). I've made a personal choice to feed a commercial raw diet, but I fully understand that that could be really hard for a vegetarian (not to mention messy and expensive). I support others' recommendations to move your puppy to one of the ProPlan products (which seems to be one of the better "main stream" kibbles not currently implicated in the DCM scare - which is a whole other topic), but I encourage you to add in some "real" "live" foods as well. There is a website called "Dog Aware" with some good guidelines, but some common healthy additions might include:

*Eggs (raw or lightly cooked)
*Any muscle meat (chicken, turkey, beef, etc.)
*Organ meat (liver, kidney, hearts, gizzards, etc - small quantities since they're rich and can result in diarrhea)
*Canned sardines, jack mackerel, or pink salmon (packed in water)
*Plain yogurt
*Cottage or ricotta cheese
*Canned pumpkin
*Veggies (Most need to be pureed or lightly cooked to be properly digested. Some good options include carrots, celery, kale, spinach, cabbage, broccoli, zucchini, parsnips, squash and celery. DO NOT feed onion!)
*Fruit (bananas, apples, berries, melon)

You can also add things like rice and pasta but since all kibbles are already high in carbohydrates (they have to be or they'll gum up the extruders), I've never seen the point in adding in more.

Note that you should not be adding so much of ANY of these things that they become a major part of your dog's diet. Think of them more like an occasional supplement; a "vitamin" to boost your dog's health. Too much of even a good thing can cause your dog's diet to become unbalanced, so make sure at least 3/4 of what she eats is a balanced (AAFCO-certified) commercial food. But a spoonful of canned pumpkin or a dollop of cottage cheese or a spoonful of canned mackerel or the pureed stems you took off your own broccoli dinner will both make her meals more appealing and add some living nutrients to her meals as well.

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Thanks everyone for taking out the time to give me your thoughts. Meal 2 times a day seems to be making her hungry enough! she now eats whatever is offered. Right now I have replaced one of her meals with RC kibbles. I will continue to monitor her weight and hope I am able to maintain it.
I was quite keen to shift to the Purina ProPlan. But in India it’s available only in two variations-ProPlan Optistart and Optibalance while I find so many options like Focus etc. in other parts of the world. That’s very sad.
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I'm going to go against the stream here and actually support the addition of "people food" to your dog's diet. If you choose to feed your dog a manufactured kibble you are essentially feeding them a food that has had all the life cooked out of them (that's one of the reason most have natural or artificial vitamins added back in - it's replacing the nutrients that are destroyed when the "food" ingredients are cooked). I've made a personal choice to feed a commercial raw diet, but I fully understand that that could be really hard for a vegetarian (not to mention messy and expensive). I support others' recommendations to move your puppy to one of the ProPlan products (which seems to be one of the better "main stream" kibbles not currently implicated in the DCM scare - which is a whole other topic), but I encourage you to add in some "real" "live" foods as well. There is a website called "Dog Aware" with some good guidelines, but some common healthy additions might include:

*Eggs (raw or lightly cooked)
*Any muscle meat (chicken, turkey, beef, etc.)
*Organ meat (liver, kidney, hearts, gizzards, etc - small quantities since they're rich and can result in diarrhea)
*Canned sardines, jack mackerel, or pink salmon (packed in water)
*Plain yogurt
*Cottage or ricotta cheese
*Canned pumpkin
*Veggies (Most need to be pureed or lightly cooked to be properly digested. Some good options include carrots, celery, kale, spinach, cabbage, broccoli, zucchini, parsnips, squash and celery. DO NOT feed onion!)
*Fruit (bananas, apples, berries, melon)

You can also add things like rice and pasta but since all kibbles are already high in carbohydrates (they have to be or they'll gum up the extruders), I've never seen the point in adding in more.

Note that you should not be adding so much of ANY of these things that they become a major part of your dog's diet. Think of them more like an occasional supplement; a "vitamin" to boost your dog's health. Too much of even a good thing can cause your dog's diet to become unbalanced, so make sure at least 3/4 of what she eats is a balanced (AAFCO-certified) commercial food. But a spoonful of canned pumpkin or a dollop of cottage cheese or a spoonful of canned mackerel or the pureed stems you took off your own broccoli dinner will both make her meals more appealing and add some living nutrients to her meals as well.
Thank you very much for the list!! This is very helpful! I will certainly incorporate these into her diet. And the resources on Dog Aware are great! Thank you very much!
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Thanks everyone for taking out the time to give me your thoughts. Meal 2 times a day seems to be making her hungry enough! she now eats whatever is offered. Right now I have replaced one of her meals with RC kibbles. I will continue to monitor her weight and hope I am able to maintain it.
I was quite keen to shift to the Purina ProPlan. But in India it’s available only in two variations-ProPlan Optistart and Optibalance while I find so many options like Focus etc. in other parts of the world. That’s very sad.

I hear you. There are many more Pro Plan options in the US than in Canada, too.

That said, I googled the Optibalance, and it basically looks like Pro Plan Adult Chicken and Rice (which is I think a Focus food in the US and Canada). It is a good choice. It is a 26/16 Protein/Fat food which is just fine for a normally active adult dog.

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Thanks everyone for taking out the time to give me your thoughts. Meal 2 times a day seems to be making her hungry enough! she now eats whatever is offered. Right now I have replaced one of her meals with RC kibbles. I will continue to monitor her weight and hope I am able to maintain it.
I was quite keen to shift to the Purina ProPlan. But in India it’s available only in two variations-ProPlan Optistart and Optibalance while I find so many options like Focus etc. in other parts of the world. That’s very sad.

I hear you. There are many more Pro Plan options in the US than in Canada, too.

That said, I googled the Optibalance, and it basically looks like Pro Plan Adult Chicken and Rice (which is I think a Focus food in the US and Canada). It is a good choice. It is a 26/16 Protein/Fat food which is just fine for a normally active adult dog.
Thank you for looking up! That’s helpful !
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