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Smile Low carb, pea-free dog food?

Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to get the weight off my Sherlock, thyroid panel came back normal, looking to go forward with Keto-kibble, any other suggestions? No legumes please, thinking about the FDA and UC Davis reports about legumes and Golden’s.
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There used to be a food that was VERY good for being low card (about 12% carbs, most foods are at or over 50% carbs) called Evo and was originally called Innova Evo. It was a grain free with 1 pea ingredient (7th or 8th i think) but had 88% of the protein from meat. I don't think you will find a low carb food with grain in it as grains are high in carbs.



To help a little with understanding how to decipher the bags when looking at them and without knowing the actual carb content. There are only 3 sources of energy in a dog food, Proteins, Fats and Carbs. You only have 100% of the total sum of the food. So when lowering carbs you must raise Proteins and Fats. The food I gave an example of, Evo, was 42% Protein and 22% Fat. That left Carbs a roughly 12% and max of 17%. So if you're really looking for low Carb foods, that is what you want to look at. Keep in mind phosphorous in proteins is what causes kidney disease. So why or how can you feed a higher protein diet (max protein listed by AAFCO is 30%)? It's because low carb needs to equal high protein and fat. The body stores carbs for energy in the form of glycogens in the liver. It's for use to recover when muscles are fatigued. If there isn't enough carbs to do so, the body then burns fats (very quick energy burn, think candy bars) and then pulls from the protein. Therefore the Protein, along with the phosphorous, is burned before the excess is dumped through the kidneys. So the trick is if you have high Protein, you must have a high fat level. If you're feeding a high Protein and low fat, say a 10 or 12% fat level, your carbs will still be high and that leaves a lot of excess protein in the system the body isn't going to use. So a food that is 38% protein and 12% fat... is still high in carbs. That fat should be well above 16% so like 18% or so.



Sorry, I didn't mean to ramble on a bit but this will help you understand how to know a food is at least lower in carb then most foods. I think with today's information with the DCM issue and legumes and until the findings and recommendations are made public, it's going to be very difficult finding such a food. I have been saying that if you need a food to do a job, like the low carb food for say a diabetic dog, then it may very well be worth feeding the food that helps them and just every 4 or 6 months do a whole blood taurine test from UC Davis (costs $75) and just watch how the dog is doing.

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