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FARMINA, DCM and WSAVA Approved Foods

Earlier this year I posted on this website as I was dealing with a puppy that had a HORRIBLE reaction to Royal Canin GR puppy food. After almost 2 months I successfully switched him to Zignature at the advice of a pet food store owner. I now have just found out about DCM and it appears Zignature fed dogs have a very high percentage of dogs with DCM. Joined the Facebook group and have read about which foods meet the WSAVA guidelines. Rotal Canin, ProPlan and Eukanuba.

Royal Canin is out for me due to the previous experience and I've read some dogs have had a hard time transitioning to ProPlan. I feel better about the ingredients in the Farmina Cod, but I may be letting my past view of Purina foods cloud my judgement to be honest.

With the horrendous time we had trying to switch him to a new food I want to make sure I'm not just switching him to a food that made sense to me as a human, but may not be in the best interest of my dog, as I have found out with Zignature.

For what it's worth, his vet is not up on he DCM issue (I had to send them the link to the UC Davis website in order to send sample in for taurine testing.) As a matter of fact, when I brought my puppy in for his first exam I was told make sure he gets large breed puppy food- any large breed puppy food is fine. Just this week I overhead the receptionist telling a customer on the phone "any dog food you can get at PetSmart is good- they only carry really good food."

Does anyone have extensive experience with feeding Farmina to their Golden's? I'd love to hear the good and the bad as well so I can make an informed decision. Also, does anyone know exactly why it is NOT approved by WSAVA? Any red flags?

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Sorry I don't have any experience with these brands. We have had good success with Pro Plan Large Breed Puppy and Adult and Eukanuba Large Breed Puppy. Pro Plan has a Sensitive Skin and Stomach that might work. Are there other options for vets near you?


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I am not sure why Farmina may not meet the guidelines. Most companies fail on the question of

#1 Do you employ a full time qualified nutritionist? Appropriate qualifications are either a PhD in animal nutrition or board-certification by the American College of Veterinary Nutrition (ACVN) or the European College of Veterinary Comparative Nutrition (ECVCN). What is this nutritionistís name and qualifications? (Many dog food companies employ consultants who work for a number of companies rather than work as actual employees developing foods for the company.)

I did check the group on Facebook, and according to Dr. Stern, they did not have a board certified veterinary nutritionist on board as of June. There is a good discussion of Farmina on the Taurine Deficiency in Golden Retrievers FB group initiated by Sydney Waring on June 4, 2018.

I feed ProPlan Sport and my dogs have always done well on it. Many of my puppies are on ProPlan Sensitive Skin and Stomach. They don't Have issues but donít need the extra calories in the Sport version.

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Two similar topics going at the same time...

https://www.goldenretrieverforum.com...rmina-dcm.html (Wolfsblut or Farmina (DCM))


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There are many vets in my area, but it's hard to find a good one. I did have an amazing vet clinic nearby with most of the vets UC Davis grads (about an hour from me) but they were bought out by VCA and it's never been the same since. Vets are given too little time to treat their patients and prices have done nothing but increase greatly.
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There are no WSAVA approved foods per se. There are foods that meet WSAVA guidelines though. Farmina does not meet WSAVA guidelines for one reason because they do not perform scientific feeding trials. Currently there are 5 brands that meet WSAVA guidelines and there are more to follow hopefully in the future if food producers hire full-time board certified animal nutritionists and qualified personnel to handle this work. There is a discussion on this topic on Facebook called Taurine-Deficient Dilated Cardiomyopathy and the group has over 1000 veterinary professionals, nutritionists and about 22,500 members so far. Here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/
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I am not sure why Farmina may not meet the guidelines.
Farmina claims that they do not perform scientific feeding trials. They send food home and use that method in lieu of real scientific feeding trials in a someone controlled environment where no other foods, treats or incidental nutrients are part of the mix.
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What are the five brands that meet WSAVA criteria?
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I am wondering the same. Hopefully someone here can comment. I am starting to really research this as I am waiting for the next puppy.

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