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Kinda surprised that Nutro didn't meet WSAVA guidelines. You'd figure the big 5 (US Foods as RC is French) Iams/Euk, Nutro, Hills, Purina would all meet the guidelines.

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So I am a bit confused. I just looked at the ingredients for PPP Focus and peas are in the ingredients and peas are a legume and my understanding is that you don't want legumes in the food bc it blocks taurine which could lead to DCM. I know its not that black and white but if legumes could be problematic, then why would the researchers recommend PPP when it has legumes? Any thoughts??

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The answer that I was given, and I’m not positive it’s correct is that there have been no DCM cases found on the Purina diets. They appear to have had some low taurine results, but no DCM.
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Our last golden was on nutro. When all this heart trouble with goldens showed up I noticed it has a lot of peas and lagunes.

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@Cpc1972 I meant the regular Nutro not the Ultra or grain free diets.


@DblTrblGolden2 As far as the peas... Dr Stern mentions to keep the number of legumes to a minimum and out of the top 10 ingredients. My food is Precise holistic and has 1 pea ingredient at #17 in the list and no other legumes and my dogs whole blood came back at just over 360 (can't remember if it was 363 or 368)

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@Cpc1972 I meant the regular Nutro not the Ultra or grain free diets.


@DblTrblGolden2 As far as the peas... Dr Stern mentions to keep the number of legumes to a minimum and out of the top 10 ingredients. My food is Precise holistic and has 1 pea ingredient at #17 in the list and no other legumes and my dogs whole blood came back at just over 360 (can't remember if it was 363 or 368)
Eric, do you know if Precise Holistic meets the WSAVA requirements, do they do testing and do they have a nutritionist on staff? I also don't remember what number the taurine blood test results should be at. I am assuming that 360 is a good number?

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Everything being asked above is being or has been answered on the Taurine Discussion

Everything being asked above is being or has been answered on the Taurine-Deficient Nutritional DCM Discussion on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/
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Everything being asked above is being or has been answered on the Taurine-Deficient Nutritional DCM Discussion on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/

You are correct, but there is so much information on there it can be overwhelming to begin looking.


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Curious if Royal Canin Veterinary Diet Selected Protein Adult PR Dry Dog Food meets guidelines...

https://www.chewy.com/royal-canin-ve...ected/dp/35131

ETA: Just spoke with Royal Canin and they confirmed this formulation meets the WSAVA guidelines. This might be an option for Duke (my IBD guy), but she's steering me towards the Hydrolyzed Protein (which Duke is already on) for Charlie as well due to the higher taurine and lower sodium. It's hard to fine a solution that works for 3 different dogs and doesn't break the bank.


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Charlie's cardiologist recommended the following link for those who are interested in understanding sodium impact. Looks like a good resource.

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