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"hosting" a field training seminar

My field trainer is toying with the idea of having an outside field training seminar here on my property, because his hunt club is pretty far from civilization. He asked me how I feel about it.
I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I've already told him NO ONE (no exceptions) is going to be allowed in the pet hotel building, not even to use the bathroom because you have to walk through the boarding area to get to the bathroom, and NO ONE (no exceptions) is going to have access to the fenced in areas.
Does anyone have any comments, or any concerns I should have, about having a seminar here? Because of the business on the property I do carry pretty high liability insurance.
(I'd get paid in the form of free training sessions)
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ok, for YOU I would make an exception



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1) Parking?
2) Weather policy?
3) Is it out of the way it won't impact clients coming in/out? (.... most of them won't appreciate seeing birds... maybe if birds are used, do that at the non-client-coming-by-times?
4) Will it be in an area that will not stress out your boarding dogs?
5) Will HE be responsible for liability, paperwork, registrations, etc. Or will you?
6) Get him to write up a contract, no matter how good your relationship is.
7) How far are you from me?

Weve done quite a few seminars at the training building but might work at my place this summer if we need more space for one of them (working dog event). There definitely will be a contract and other things clearly written out.
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I think you have a wonderful property for something like that, and most seminars have a waiver form that limits liability.You would need to have Port A Potties or something, which should come out of the proceeds, but I think I'd be pretty excited - has he given any inclination about when he's thinking of it?

And okay, selfishly asking here, would he consider non collar conditioned dogs attending ? LOL


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The only thing that comes to mind is boarding dogs that might be gun shy if you're using starter pistols, etc.

He stands to make a substantial amount of money if the seminar is successful. I'd want to know exactly how many training sessions for free I'd get. 0-10 participants= 5 sessions; 10-20 participants= 10 sessions....

What ifn something were to happen? Does he have liability insurance, too? It should go through his first and anything overflow should then be sent to yours.... all written down this way of course!
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GREAT list, thanks!

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1) Parking?
plenty of parking here
2) Weather policy?
good question. I do have a 2 car garage (remote from the house) that they can use if they want to.
3) Is it out of the way it won't impact clients coming in/out? (.... most of them won't appreciate seeing birds... maybe if birds are used, do that at the non-client-coming-by-times?
The area I have in mind is about 4 or 5 acres behind a big line of evergreen trees, not visible from the pet hotel at all.
4) Will it be in an area that will not stress out your boarding dogs?
Yes, they can't see it at all from where they are
5) Will HE be responsible for liability, paperwork, registrations, etc. Or will you?
He will be, although I do carry a very hefty liability policy, too
6) Get him to write up a contract, no matter how good your relationship is.
EXCELLENT point!
7) How far are you from me?
A few hours....maybe a road trip for you and Ann!

Weve done quite a few seminars at the training building but might work at my place this summer if we need more space for one of them (working dog event). There definitely will be a contract and other things clearly written out.



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He's thinking of early to mid-May because our weather is typically really nice, and the cover won't be very long yet in the alfalfa fields.
I think the seminar will be for beginners, so I suspect none of the dogs will be collar conditioned. From what he has told me so far, it seems like it's going to be mostly how to make intro. to field a positive experience for your dog. Basic obedience, how to make them "birdy", and so on.
It does sound like fun, doesn't it?


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I think you have a wonderful property for something like that, and most seminars have a waiver form that limits liability.You would need to have Port A Potties or something, which should come out of the proceeds, but I think I'd be pretty excited - has he given any inclination about when he's thinking of it?

And okay, selfishly asking here, would he consider non collar conditioned dogs attending ? LOL



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Good point about the guns, I will ask him about that. I sort of doubt he'd be using any if it's a "beginner" seminar, because the dogs attending might not have been exposed to gunfire and he would never want to cause one of them to be gunshy. But good question.
I will take as many free training sessions as he will give me! Having worked with him now all last summer, I do trust he will be more than fair when it comes to that.
I will ask about the insurance, he's been a pro for about 15 years so I'm sure he has it covered but I don't want to leave anything to chance, I have too much to lose.
A little side note....he and his wife have also expressed very serious and legitimate interest in buying this place when we're ready to sell, so I want to stay "close" with him.

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The only thing that comes to mind is boarding dogs that might be gun shy if you're using starter pistols, etc.

He stands to make a substantial amount of money if the seminar is successful. I'd want to know exactly how many training sessions for free I'd get. 0-10 participants= 5 sessions; 10-20 participants= 10 sessions....

What ifn something were to happen? Does he have liability insurance, too? It should go through his first and anything overflow should then be sent to yours.... all written down this way of course!



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As one who has hosted seminars:

Parking - is there enough, and will having them there interfere with your kennel clients' ability to pick up/drop off dogs?

Will having 20 additional, likely barky, dogs on the property all day be stressful for the kennel dogs?

You'll need to rent porta potties.

Do the grounds allow for space for people to set up their dogs? EZ Ups, crates, chair, etc.

Can you mic your speaker so all can hear him?

Since you're not making any cash-in-hand, how will you handle repairs if something gets damaged by an attendee?

Will he take care of the registration, promotion, etc.? If it's you, that needs to be factored in when considering how many lessons you'll get.

Make large signs and post them all over the gated ares where people are not to be. Same with the kennel.

Definitely ask about whether or not he'll be doing any starter's pistol work.

Make sure you have a liability release signed by all who attend.

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