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My main goals are within the HRC though my field trial training group will continue to push me to qualifiers for Cassie. There are only so many weekends in the spring and summer. The fall is usually a non-starter for me since the dogs and I are guiding starting September 1.

Cassie (R) will start off with upland tests for UH then move to the regular HRC hunts and continue to add finished points.
8 month Rory (L - GRHRCH Yeti x HRCH Cassie) should be ready for seasoned(HR) this spring and Lord willing we will work towards HRCH this summer in Colorado. He is training up VERY fast.

I hope to have both dogs in the Grand 2020. The red dogs wish everyone successful hunts, hunt tests and trials in 2019!
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We are plugging away. Trying some new stuff to get better on all age blinds. I am the pits. Proof has gotten pretty good at them now but my timing is so bad. So we will see how the training goes for the spring and from there I will see if I will run him or not. I probably will, mainly for the fun for proof. I don't like running and screwing up blinds every trial and sometimes we can get through them ha ha ha. oh well, it gets old and depressing doing well in the marks and sucky on the blinds but he doesn't care. He loves trials. ha ha.
I know what you mean about the timing of whistles on the all-age blinds. I've had a couple rockets and even if I was quick to react, I was too darn late ... I had to learn to anticipate what the dog was going to do. Sometimes that resulted in whistling when I didn't need to whistle, but I figured that an extra whistle was preferred over the risk of getting in trouble. And it's made extra hard with the distances involved in the all-age blinds because a dog can travel several feet, maybe yards, between the time the whistle is blown and the time the sound reaches the dog. (So who will do the calculation: If Spot is 385 yards away from Sally and Spot is running 25.5 miles per hour away from Sally, (i) how long does it take for the sound from Sally's Green Monster Whistle to reach Spot's ears and (ii) how many feet has Spot traveled between the time Sally first blew the Green Monster Whistle and the time it reaches Spot's ears? (And let's assume that Spot has a pretty good "sit" and travels only 15 feet after he hears the Green Monster Whistle.))

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Big maybe for my girl. I think she could get a WC. I did some doubles with her last week. Problem is training alone so if have to be my own thrower. I also need to get some birds out for her. My boy still doesn’t have enough training yet. Place I usually train is 2 hours away and I haven’t been told of any practice times yet this winter.

Abeille, My wife and I train alone probably 95% of the time, we both work full time jobs and squeeze training in 5-6 days a week. We have 3 wingers, ATV, chairs and stickmen, we get it done the best we can and make due. We have fun! I worked hard to find training places close to us. I knocked on a ton of doors, put ads on facebook local groups for places with fields and ponds. I was shocked on the great response we got. We ended up with some real nice properties. I also contacted every shooting preserve for left over birds. Our freezer is full with dead ducks. It can be done without breaking the bank. The main thing is we have fun. A lot of it isn't conventional training and supplies we use but it works for us and the dogs Good luck!

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A lot of it isn't conventional training and supplies we use but it works for us and the dogs Good luck!
This particular sentence made me smile because like you, I do things that aren't necessarily per "a PROGRAM." We do the best we can with the time and resources that we have.
My greatest limitation is time; I have a 45 minute commute to/from work, so during this time of the year, I train two days a week at most ... sometimes I have to take shortcuts or be satisfied with "good enough." But that's okay.
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I know what you mean about the timing of whistles on the all-age blinds. I've had a couple rockets and even if I was quick to react, I was too darn late ... I had to learn to anticipate what the dog was going to do. Sometimes that resulted in whistling when I didn't need to whistle, but I figured that an extra whistle was preferred over the risk of getting in trouble. And it's made extra hard with the distances involved in the all-age blinds because a dog can travel several feet, maybe yards, between the time the whistle is blown and the time the sound reaches the dog. (So who will do the calculation: If Spot is 385 yards away from Sally and Spot is running 25.5 miles per hour away from Sally, (i) how long does it take for the sound from Sally's Green Monster Whistle to reach Spot's ears and (ii) how many feet has Spot traveled between the time Sally first blew the Green Monster Whistle and the time it reaches Spot's ears? (And let's assume that Spot has a pretty good "sit" and travels only 15 feet after he hears the Green Monster Whistle.))

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Can you do the math??? Please??? its so complicated for my brain....Oh but my 14 year old son just downloaded a game for our V/R. Its a game where you have to watch and react really fast. I am not so good at it, but I'm thinking it might help me out with my reaction time....Geez anything I can do to mentally get faster, ha ha ha.

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If I didn’t make a mistake somewhere, Spot hears the whistle at 397.8 yards and stops at 400.8 yards.

I’m going to run Maisey in the local Master tests when they start up in May. I may let her travel to the OOS ones with the pro. She needs 4 Master passes by 7/31 for the 2019 MN.

I think I’m going to go check out Canadian hunt tests with Molly. Maisey will have to keep her focus on AKC.
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If I didn’t make a mistake somewhere, Spot hears the whistle at 397.8 yards and stops at 400.8 yards.

I’m going to run Maisey in the local Master tests when they start up in May. I may let her travel to the OOS ones with the pro. She needs 4 Master passes by 7/31 for the 2019 MN.

I think I’m going to go check out Canadian hunt tests with Molly. Maisey will have to keep her focus on AKC.

Sound travels 1100 ft/sec at 68 deg, slower in colder temperatures. At 397.8 yds. that is about 1200 ft. It took over a second for the sound to reach the dog. OK, maybe you are just being figurative but we should keep in mind two factors when using our whistle:

1. "Lock time"---thinking time to sound producing time---may be about 1/6 of a second, reflex time
2. Travel time of sound

An article by Dennis Voigt made me aware of this (i.e. travel time) and he states that this results in many of us doing a nic/burn too early. If you don't consider these factors you just might administer a correction before the dog has time to hear or react. Just think what this does to the dog. Food for thought.

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With the water temp near 50 and the air temp at 60, we hit the water on Sunday! For not being in the water for several months, I was pretty pleased with the boy-dogs ... unfortunately, the girl-dogs are all in season, so they had to stay home.
It looks like I may have to play hooky from work on Tuesday afternoon (temp is again forecast to be 60).
... so may be those early trials are within reach ....
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"With the water temp near 50 and the air temp at 60, we hit the water on Sunday"

That's pretty good. I checked the water temp yesterday and it was 37 degrees, so it will be a while and after today ( supposed to hit 60) a cold front comes in with snow on Sat night/Sunday. It will be April before we get in the water. I would go down South for a week but then I eat up my days that I use for going to the trials She did run a very nice land blind yesterday full blast out and back!!!!! Life is good!!!!

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I would go down South for a week but then I eat up my days that I use for going to the trials
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