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Frozen duck in my freezer

Hi! Hoping some of you guys can give me a little advice. About 2 years ago someone gave me a dead duck so I could see how Finley would handle it. They told me to drag it around, shake it, ect basically to try and entice her to take it. Which I tried, 2 different days and it's been in the freezer ever since. She was all over it, very excited about it, but would not take it. I'm thinking it's time to take it out, give it anther shot and get rid of it if she won't take it.

I read through some old threads after doing a search for frozen birds. I have no expectation of trying to put a hunt title on her, she's 5 and 1/2 and all we've done is obedience. But I would like to have fun with it, if she'll take to it. She seems birdy, but I think she'd rather it be alive and kickin. She loves to stalk all birds, and has caught a blue jay. Also proudly brought me a baby bird that likely fell out of nest or something. (Thankfully she didn't kill it, although my reaction was not the best to encourage picking up birds lol.)

With my next puppy (not for many years down the line though) I would like to do both hunt and obedience. So I thought I can give different things a try with the one I have now. Hopefully she'll like it. From reading different posts it sounds like I wouldn't need to defrost this thing. Any suggestions on trying it again with my frozen bird? I keep reading about bumpers. Will any bumper do, plastic ect or do you guys have suggestions? I think our pet store sells some but are plastic. I also saw a link that showed a bumper with a pheasant pelt wrapped around it. I'm so tempted to buy it. Also noticed something called a Dokken? I'm curious why the bumpers and not birds. Seems like bumpers are first??

This is all just for fun, and maybe pick up some knowledge for the next one. I've never been to a hunt or field trial but do love to see pictures of these beautiful dogs soaking wet with a bird in it's mouth. I'm taking a few days off from work in September specifically to watch the trials at our nationals. Luckily it's close to home and I can't wait. Thanks for any suggestions!



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You need to partially defrost it- at least I do mine- the dogs are not keen on picking up a big 4" block of dead duck, but a more pliable critter is quite exciting. Others' mileage I'm sure is different but if duck was intact when frozen(no big holes in him) you'll probably get 3-4 short thaws out of him.
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OK a few tips...
Definitely defrost it. Dogs don't typically like picking up a block of ice which is what your bird is going to be, straight out of the freezer.
To defrost I just put it on the garage floor the night before I train and it is fine by the morning

Dogs who show interest but unsure what to actually DO with the bird are pretty easy. Tell the dog to sit, open their mouth, put the bird in, hold your hands gently over their muzzle so they don't spit it out right away, and tell them they are a good dog. Ask them to hold it about 5 seconds then "out" Generally a few times of this and they start to figure out you're supposed to pick it up. Then throw the bird as far as you can, let the dog chase it, and when he gets to it, call the dog enthusiastically. Half the dogs will be like, Oh crap I gotta figure out how to pick this thing up before I come back --- and they will -- the other half will probably run back to you, glance at the bird, and again be a little clueless with what to do. Walk out to the bird with them, again have them sit, put the bird in their mouth, and now try to get them to walk with the bird then run after you as you jog away. Once they figure out they have to pick it up and hold it, there's no stopping them. Best of luck!

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The bumpers with feathers wrapped around them, Dokkens, bird-shaped bumpers, etc etc are all a gimmick and waste of money
Buy regular 2" x 12" WHITE plastic or canvas bumpers and just play with the dog with them
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Thank you both! That's exactly how we started with the dumbbell and her articles, so in my mind this shouldn't be too far of a stretch. I'll let you know how it goes .



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Good luck. Over the past couple years I have an arsenal of bumpers 2x11; 3x11 dokkens, canvas and plastic. Dokkens are a bit expensive and obviously I have expensive dogs as they all prefer to pick the dokken before they get the other bumpers. In the winter time the other plastic bumpers tend to get very hard. The dokkens are better as they do not get hard. So I use mostly the canvas and the dokkens in the winter.

As far as the bird in the freezer; I would personally introduce the dog to a fresh shot flyer first.


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Not sure where you're located in Deleware, but have you checked out First State Retriever Club and attend one of their training days? If you do have a bird dog & you have a solid foundation in obedience, why not play the hunt test game? I agree w/ Claudia, if you can get your hands on a fresh bird all the better.


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Not sure where you're located in Deleware, but have you checked out First State Retriever Club and attend one of their training days? If you do have a bird dog & you have a solid foundation in obedience, why not play the hunt test game? I agree w/ Claudia, if you can get your hands on a fresh bird all the better.
Never look at location - you are right! Also I assume the PVGRC is not that far.


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I had not seen the first state retriever club. Thanks for the info, I will look into it! The PVGRC is quite a distance. We went there for our CCA, a little over 3 hours one way for the location where the event was held. She does like birds. Will she retrieve em? I don't know. She does have a solid obedience background. She also has an owner who has never done any of this stuff before. Hunt test games...I maybe completely wrong on this. My thought is I don't have a clue at this point how to get started. The dead duck she wouldn't take, as much as she appeared to want to....and now she's 5 1/2. I think if this is what I wanted to do, I should have tried it from the beginning. And I just want to have fun with her. So, I'll defrost my duck and see what happens. I'm also going to send an email to the first state retriever club. Thank you all!



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