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What is she doing that would lose points?

Originally Posted by Loisiana View Post
not sure that we can assume charging at a dumbbell means pouncing and feet hitting is involved. You can have the former without the latter. A dog charging hard at a dumbbell would be a goal of many. Most of my training goes into the turn back to me. I want a quick, powerful turn back towards me. A great turn will clean up most pick up problems.
I too put emphasis on the return to clean up Winter's dumbbell retrieve. It worked like a charm.
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One reason I do not do obedience past the regular classes. Hunt comes first for me.

Now, as far as being the best trainer possible, I will never resort to putting a collar on my dog's butt to achieve those ribbons.

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Originally Posted by gdgli View Post

Also, I did not say Buffy was hitting the dumbbell with her feet or pouncing on it. I said that she does not slow down and gently pick up the bumper.
What is she doing then that caused your instructor to bring up the issue?

If your dog is cleanly picking up the dumbbell, there is no problem.

If your dog is running THROUGH the dumbbell and scrambling to pick it up and bring it back, juggling the dumbbell along the way - there is a problem with losing points and from what I've seen with a lot of dogs out there who are either field trained or high octane (is that the word I'm thinking of?) - it's pretty common.

The goal of obedience is to have controlled and clean retrieves - but you also want some speed and energy. You don't want a dog walking out there and walking back. Because yeah, that's points off too.

Whatever you do - I would think obedience should come first. There's a lot of stuff in field that people have problems with because the dogs don't have obedience training or work put into them. <= That much I know from listening to people who field train their dogs (particularly mondo field bred dogs like labs and gsps) and are very successful at it.

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Thank you for all your replies on this. Interesting comments.
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