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Uh-MAZE-ing so happy for you Shelby and Proofers!!! I got goosebumps reading about your test, and about Jake. Too cool.

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Congratulations!! Proof and Shelby you are doing so well. We will continue to live vicariously though you! Please keep us informed on all the details!


Got out this morning to train on a new field. It's a field that was created a few years ago from fill that was too soft to be built on. So this field can't be developed. It's a bit of a drive at 25 minutes away, but well worth the drive. The only thing about it is, the sun is so low in the sky this time of year and the mountains are to the south of this field, so there is no direct sunlight on this field until 11:30 this morning. As the days get shorter and the sun goes lower in the sky, this field we won't be able to use. Here's some photos of the field. It's really nice for super long marks. We might be able to pull off 400 yard marks. Being in the shade it was 24 degrees and very frosty.
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gosh that is just beautiful and so foreign to me down here in this sun

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Never buy property in Alaska with mountains or hills to the south of you. Winter can be hard. There are properties up that valley that do not get direct sunlight for 4 months of the year or longer. How's that for depresssing.


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Well, we ran in Alabama this weekend and Proof got fourth. It was a very indecisive test and while Proof did amazing, so did a lot of other dogs. I believe it came down to lines because Proof literally had no hunts on his birds with the exception of not lining his flyer and doing a twist or two to come up with it. Not really a hunt. The other birds he went and put his nose on them. The thing that got him I believe was in the third series there was some really strong wind and proof got lazy and let it push him on an island. He didn't hunt the island just used it to pivot back into the water in which he swam and got out and just got his bird. But there were a few dogs that didn't get on the island. I was actaully very happy with fourth because before they called placements I just didn't know if he had out shined enough dogs to place.

Man, I'm just so excited about proof. He is in this to win it. He loves this game, its kind of really cool to have a partner like him. Its like he understands this is a contest or something and he works his butt off to mark those birds and he does his best at not cheating water or trying to stay on line. I watched him shoulder the wind to run to his land mark. They said it was 400 yards long. He ran sideways the whole way, ha ha. But the real cool part is proof has had a bitch in heat at home. This is the third placement with a dog in season making him crazy all week training. His focus at the trials is better! I hope they stay that way. My trainer said I should pay for a bitch in season before he runs every trial. ha ha. Not to mention, Proof exudes confidence. He really thinks HE is the best dog in the field. Its great cause I'm always a nervous wreck.

It is so fun to run this dog. on the way to the holding blind he is all flash and prances at a heel to the blind, making sure he marks every tall weed on the way there. Then he lays down in the blind. Then we start our walk to the mat and he is like a coiled spring. He is almost crazy, looking all around for guns and what is going on, trying to restrain himself from going ahead to the mat. Then on the mat it is like you can see his whole body just relax and breath. He settles in and starts looking. He gives the short bird a nice stare down and then looks long. I show him one more time and then we get on to the long bird. I signal. He stares at it and using his nose to just slightly trail the bird down to the ground. Then he does a little head nod and turns on his own to the short gun. I work on head swinging all day long but honestly, when he does this at a trial, I've noticed he nails those birds. its like he's nodding, got it! If he keeps staring ahead then I've noticed sometimes he has a bigger hunt. Not always, though. I think now I'm just at the point of trusting this little booger butt. He's got it. He is always working hard at following the rules, like he knows the routine. I like it. Very fluid.

The trial was on a Friday but because it was so indecisive the judges had to keep calling back a ton of dogs which made the trial run into the next day. I wasn't sure if Proof would be even more amped a second day but surprisingly he was really just fine. But what was interesting is he pouted after we were done. I figured out he thought there would be more birds. Anyone that doesn't think a dog can count hasn't trained with these dogs.

So this week I would like to try to work on holding lines along a hill, proof seems a bit lazy on that lately. Also, head swinging like always and blinds in the beginning of the week, no blinds at the end of the week, only marking. Gonna go down and train with Anney and run her club's derby Friday. I'm sure it is going to be so much fun, I always have a good time with her!

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had a great time in FL with Anney! training and margaritas, baby!!! Two things that Proof has gotten sloppy on, holding angles on slopes and against the water currents. Worked on that. Worked on water, big swim and cheating and a drip line mark all of which ended up being in the derby. Ran the derby on Friday. Such a weird, uneasy derby for me. The whole day was just weird. First series was unbelievably odd. We ran second and that was terrible, that was the earliest we've ever run and it was tough for me. I'm used to watching a few dogs run first. I just didn't know what to expect. IN the first, Proof didn't mark the flyer! The flyer! He had two big dog trucks passing behind the flyer just as it went off. His head was looking everywhere for the bird. He took off for the memory bird instead of the flyer go bird, so my fears were confirmed. I dreaded him coming back in knowing he didn't mark it. But he came in, he looked at the flyer station and perked his ears and I told him good. I don't know how, but by the grace of God, I lined him perfectly and he literally stepped on the flyer as he took a line out. The judges said, Boom! In my head I was thinknig OMG did that just happen? And then after that it went down hill in the first. Four dogs got picked up. It was like they just ran straight to the memory bird gunners and just turned and hunted for-EVER behind the gun and four just gave up and went to the flyer. It was nuts, I don't know what it was about this set up but it was unnerving to see so many dogs do so poorly on the memory bird. Anney joked sometimes its better to be lucky then good so I think Proof was lucky that he went to his memory bird first! Second series he nailed the go bird but I don't know if I lined him wrong of he was just committed but he GUT hunted behind the gun on the memory bird. I mean it was the worst hunt he's ever had at a trial. I don't know how in the heck he was called back but I guess it was because he nailed his birds in the first and so many dogs gut hunted their birds in that series. Third series was all about cheating the water. Proof did good on the go bird which was a few feet of water they had to cut but cheated the water on the second pond. Yet they called him back, but I think there were only three or four dogs that didn't cheat one of those birds. Then the fourth series I about died. It was nearly in line guns throwing a flower pot. The long bird requird the dog not to cheat the water and get out on a penisula that held the short gunner then swim across the pond to the mark. Proof HATEs to get out behind the gun, it really messes with him, so I wasn't sure what he'd do. He took the corner of the water and did get out and went on to swim to his mark. It was the only series I walked away feeling good, he did awesome.
He ended up with a JAM but I was so lucky. We hung on for dear life on this derby and glad to finish it. Ugh, some derbies are fun and some are stressful, this was one of the yuckiest ones I've ever run. But I learned a few things and that is always important. Also, learned that Proof will do what is necessary at a trial when it comes to getting out behind the gun. He could have easily ran around that cheaty corner and then gotten in the water and by pass that gun all together but he didn't. And I had a blast with my friend I don't get to see often.
Anyway, this week I have a few things to work on. Still need to work on those lines on slopes and in water. I still just love my Proofers so much and have so much fun training him.

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Shelby, drip line mark?
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Shelby, drip line mark?
GREAT question hollyk!
MoP, can you describe that in 50 words or less?
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well, I don't know exactly what you call this time of mark but what I'm referring to is if you look at a tree's drip line. The gunner stands on the edge of the drip line and then throws the bird along the arc of the canopy to the other side of the drip line of the tree. The trees on this particular property are HUGE old oak trees with tons of moss hanging basically all the way to the ground. The bird is hard to see when it trails along the canopy and perhaps the dogs don't like running at such a "wall", I don't know. But these dogs all ran straight at the gunner and then instead of going to the mark that landed on the other side of the tree they pushed off the gun and ran to the open area of grass behind the gunner. It was just weird.
Perhaps FTgoldens can explain why young dogs would do this????

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Got it, thanks!
Funny I think some terms are regional. I have never heard gut hunted before, I think we would say gorilla hunt.
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