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Bally's Training Journal

Well I had been thinking of doing this for a while and since Kristy (nolefan) asked for it (and be careful what you ask for) I thought I would begin a thread to be my little journal of Bally's field training.
I did something similar for Slater although it started a lot later in his training:
https://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/...education.html

So as of today Bally is 9 months old. What has he had so far?
- land marks
- short, simple water marks
- all varieties of birds both dead and alive, I've yet to find something he doesn't like
- duck calls & gun shots
- 3-handed casting on a long line, starting when he was very little with food bowls, now graduated to bumpers, but just single bumpers not piles
- whistle sit on a leash for treats
- some basic field obedience....sit means sit, don't move unless directed otherwise; heel means back up in heel position; "here" for treats; he is not steady in the least bit; he wears an ecollar but has never felt it, pinch collar for control on lead

So 2 nights ago we started "take it" and "out" with a bumper. Just a few minutes in the garage before dinner. He is wearing a buckle collar high and snug on his neck. The 3rd, 4th and pinky finger of my left hand are under his collar, the thumb and index finger are around his ear just like I was going to do an ear pinch. I am not pinching at all at this point but he is now getting used to working and being handled with his ear in my hand, which never moves from his ear while we work on take it and out. So far, he doesn't care a bit! We are using a small bumper I hold in my right hand. Puppy sits, I tell him "take it" which he does, I praise and pet while he's holding the bumper, and a verbal marker "uh-uh" and either tap under the chin or hold his mouth closed if he mouths it. I have decided not to use the word "hold" with him as I think "take it" should be implied that you hold it and not mouth. He already knows what "out" means. Wash, rinse, repeat. We probably do "take it" "out" 10-15 times a session. I will do this every day for at least a week. He's doing it perfectly well so the temptation is to rush!

Will check back in with any updates.

--Anney
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oh wow this will be a great learning journal for me to read! Thanks!

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Sure thing! BTW I LOVE LOVE LOVE the picture of Katniss in your signature --- wow!!

Feel free to ask questions as I go along....

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I just read Slater's thread from 3+ years ago. I remember those sessions so well!! I also was floored because Slater's little idiosyncrasies started very early in transition, and I still see some of them today. Hmmmmm little Bally what are you going to torment me with, or will you be Mr. Perfect???

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oh wow, just started reading Slater's journal and Marty has me doing this exact casting thing this week! Now, I'm hooked because it looks like you started it right where we are at. I KNOW I'm going to learn a lot from this! Wow!

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I'd love to follow Bally's training journal Anney -- very interesting.
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Thank you :)

THank you so much Anney! This is awesome! I will be bookmarking this, I've already marked Slater's page and will be interested in your updates as you have time to post them.

I asked my HRC friend, Matt to come over yesterday and we talked some and he showed me exactly what you're talking about for 'take it'. She wanted to mouth it for sure but picked up the idea quickly. We will work on it twice a day this week and then when she seems to be good with it, Matt suggested working on obedience while she holds. I have her holding a paint roller. I think I'm going to use your idea and call it "take it".

I am torn between going to the Sandlapper WC training day next Saturday or going to the field trial in Cheraw just to watch. Matt voted for Cheraw, which one do you think I'd get more out of at this stage? I wish I could do both...


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I would vote for the field trial, too. You typically get very little done with a club training day. Why still with the paint roller?

I have been working Bally almost every night on take it & out. He pounces on the bumper and snaps it up every time no matter where I hold it, with my hand in his ear. He is easy.
He doesn't really mouth the bumper but he has a good grip on it then squeezes his jaws and squishes it. Not sure if that's a good hold or a bad hold! LOL

--Anney
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I am torn between going to the Sandlapper WC training day next Saturday or going to the field trial in Cheraw just to watch. Matt voted for Cheraw, which one do you think I'd get more out of at this stage? I wish I could do both...
Are you talking about the Open National??? If so, you should totally go!! I thought about going down, but I'm working all week. Go and have fun!

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...Why still with the paint roller?...
I guess 1) I started with that because Matt suggested it and 2) I haven't switched to a bumper because there's a roller on my kitchen counter and I hadn't thought about switching to the bumper yet. I will now

I did want to be certain she was taking it because I told her to and not because she wanted it for herself. I do know she thinks a bumper is a good time. I'd like to get her to a point where she will pick up pretty much anything that she can get in her mouth because I tell her to do it.


THanks Anney and Marie, I really wanted to go to Cheraw so that's what I will do and won't feel a bit guilty. Marie, I wish you could go with us, if your plans change, please let me know - I'd love for Craig to meet you. We are getting up early on Saturday and going.



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