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Gosh Lise I would hate to see you give up on field work at this point. Think of all the work you have put in to your T work, pattern blinds, etc. VERY FEW people get that far on their own and that is a LOT of work, especially since you were doing it very very well. If you quit now you're only going to have to go back and repeat all that.
Thank you! I do know it is possible to master them all--but it is harder when you haven't done it before (vs. those that are experienced). I've been feeling my way through our field training and I've definitely wondered more than once if we'd ever really make it to the senior level without the aide of a pro....

I need to reassess. I don't want to stop...not really. Maybe we should focus on field and train for obedience on the side and just not show in obedience until she's ready with no set date.
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Lisa, obedience and field really do feed into each other so well. Heel means heel, regardless of where you are. So many people in field seem willing to accept sloppy heeling, but the *good ones* don't. If you watch the really good handlers, their dogs come to the line heeling beautifully. (Dan crabs at me ALL the time for letting Tito get 6 inches in front of me when heeling! Seriously!) Sit means sit. Stay means stay. Fetch it means the same thing whether it's a dumbell or a bird. Come means come. They're really pretty much the same in so many ways.
You just have to uphold your standards across both venues. No excuses. If she's heeling sloppy, or doesn't sit immediately, don't ignore it just because you're not in an obedience ring.
The jump from JH to SH is huge, even with the help of a pro. Why worry about it for now? You'll get there as long as it's what you want to do! You'll just set your mind to it and you guys will get there when you're both ready. Same is true for obedience. Show when she's ready (good Lord, why would you show if she's not??).
I would say enter her in an obedience show, on a weekend you're not showing in breed. Take her in the ring and consider it a fun match, just to see where she's at and what you need to work on. It will be valuable information!



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ha ha ha, your previous post just said you are going back to obedience!

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Tito, you can come live at my house. I will never make you do obedience and we train field all year around.



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This is why I decided to focus on obedience first. Field training is harder, costs more money, requires more stuff like a large field. I can train obedience in my backyard or house every day. It is also less expensive. Of course, if I was going to pick based on what my dog likes best it would be field, but....
You can always do yard training! It pays off.
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Remember how I said, I would be better at giving my training plans for the week because I was keeping a journal? Well, it works great unless you leave your journal at training class! I'll pick it up on my way home tonight and give a better plan later. Here is what I can remember:

Dooley: Continue casting exercise and three pile work. Go outs, directed jumping and ROF and ROH.

Breeze: Recalls, heeling and heel position. Agility drills and some straight ahead jumping.

Tag: Recalls, two bumper retrieves and stays.

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ha ha ha, your previous post just said you are going back to obedience!
Hmm your right. (Modified offer) Tito you can field train year around here!
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LIGRC has their Fall Hunt Test this Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I will be working all three days at the test---getting there early, setting decoys, manning wingers, and shooting. By Sunday night I will be exhausted.

I'm not running Buffy in these tests.

For those of you that feel they have to put field on hold---DON'T. You can always find something that you can do, with or without help.
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Gosh Lise I would hate to see you give up on field work at this point. Think of all the work you have put in to your T work, pattern blinds, etc. VERY FEW people get that far on their own and that is a LOT of work, especially since you were doing it very very well. If you quit now you're only going to have to go back and repeat all that.

You can be a jack of all trades and still master them. Don't let your obedience instructor talk you out of field work, if field work is something you and your dog obviously enjoy. You can go back and do obedience when they are older, it is a LOT harder to do field work when they are older. Trust me on this one.

The nice thing about obedience is that it IS so easy to practice quickly at home and get something out of it. That means you can dovetail it with your field work and not have it compete
DITTO! What Anney said!

My work with my Winter has been so much more difficult because I did not put a good foundation into him when he was young. And if things were left to sit too long, then they had to be redone--sort of a one step forward, three steps back kind of process. When I did decide to really focus on his field work it boiled through into his obedience work. I demand a good standard on the obedience aspects--heeling to line, sitting at heel, etc. Lots fo the skill drills, like no-no drills help with things like the jumps in Open. He's not a 199 kind of dog, because I don't care enough about obedience to demand that precision, but we were able to march into the ring and get his AKC CD in a weekend after a 3 month layoff. I think the discipline of his field training had a lot to do with it.

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We are back to cold rain again here today. Luckily we had sunshine a light breezes yesterday so Bonnie and Breeze got to go training with the field trialers once we had finished cleaning and organizing the club trailer. They set up four progressively longer marks. Two through cover at about 80 and 90 yards, run as a double, but with lots of push factors on the memory bird that made it tough. Then two big marks that the Open dogs also ran as a double, but with the shorter one retired. The short mark was about 175 and the long mark 250. The long mark was tough--narrow corridor to see the gunner,, down a hill, asnd with a couple of islands of brush that thended to push them off line. Ran Breeze on the short double and then did the longer marks as singles, and she did a good job. Ran Bonnie on everything as singles. That last mark is the biggest she had ever done. She needed a helper bumper halfway out but otherwise did a great job!

We have to watch the weather now to see what elese we will be able to do. I am almost wishing for a decent cold snap--rather work in a light snow than in cold drizzle!

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I am thinking of entering a set of obedience shows December 8-11, but wondering how peeved Tito will be, since I promised him he would be retired from obedience when he got his UDX and UUD....
Ha!! I think Tito would love it as long as it was kept light Are you perhaps thinking of an OTCh?


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