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Neutering - for or against

Are you for or against? Please state your reasons why also. Both medical and behavioural reasons
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Also tips on the best way to discipline your dog for excessive barking!
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It would help to know how old the dog is :-) But in general I'm not a big fan of neutering unless it's for health issues (and after the age of 2) and certainly isn't going to help with excessive barking if this is your line of thought.
Excessive barking is usually a training issue and a build up of energy. So are you training? Involved in classes? How much exercise is your dog getting?
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Barking= training .
Teach dog a signal for bark, then one for no bark. Keep dog well-exercised and mentally stimulated.
Neutering- surgical neutering increases the risk of prostate tumors by 2.4-4.3 times depending on your study ... and neutering decreases the odds of impregnanting a bitch 100%.
Don't believe w training that peeing inappropriately or aggression are factors swayed by surgically altering an animal.

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Big fan of vasectomy. Keeps the testosterone but eliminates the risk of unwanted litters.



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No. I've written about it a hundred times here. Reasons include orthopedic, cancer, longevity, hormonal. Neutering does not solve behavioral issues. I see no reason to EVER neuter a dog. None of my boys are neutered. Zero problems.
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Spaying will reduce the possibility of Pyrometra in females.

Neutering will reduce the risk of testicular and Prostate cancer in Males.
Male dogs have no idea what "cool" is, so losing the family jewels is a non event.



In both cases, the neutered dogs will not have to bear the pain of not being able to mate.
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Unless a person is absolutely sure their dog won't get loose, I'm for it.



Teach the dog to bark. Then teach the dog not to bark.
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According to my vet, the risk of testicular or prostate cancer is so low that even increasing it 100% keeps it very, very low. Neutering doesn't increase it 100% in any case.
Neutering does, however, increase the risk of hemangiosarcoma and osteosarcoma, both of which are quite common to begin with.


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Spaying will reduce the possibility of Pyrometra in females.

Neutering will reduce the risk of testicular and Prostate cancer in Males.
Male dogs have no idea what "cool" is, so losing the family jewels is a non event.



In both cases, the neutered dogs will not have to bear the pain of not being able to mate.



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A dog who has had a vasectomy won't cause an unwanted litter even if he does get loose....

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Unless a person is absolutely sure their dog won't get loose, I'm for it.



Teach the dog to bark. Then teach the dog not to bark.



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Different vets have different opinions. My vet says otherwise.

My young Golden is too precious to lose to Pyrometra, and she will be spayed at about 1.5 yrs old..depending on her development.

Hopefully we all do what's best for the dogs and not for ourselves.
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