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My one year old golden is missing molars behind lower canines on both sides! has anyone experienced this? All other teeth are in...would this be genetic...she did not have injury or dispemper/parvo...help!! google says may be embedded but you can not feel anything below gum, redness from top teeth touching gum..

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Based on which teeth are missing - this is primarily genetic.

If there had been an injury causing damage to the developing teeth - it's possible that they are somewhere in the jaw, but dislodged/fractured/deformed/impacted. o_O

However the premolars, from what I've been told are those that typically are missing if the teeth are truly missing. <= And verified by xrays.

As far as how "bad" it is - it probably will not affect your dog at all.

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so annoying when you pay so much for a furbaby...Probably no need to xray unless there appears to be jaw problems?
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Reason why I mentioned getting it checked to make sure the teeth aren't hiding in the gums/jaw somewhere is cysts could develop in the jaw because my guess the body objects to an impacted tooth sitting there where it shouldn't be. Those cysts could eat away at the jaw and cause a lot of problems.

If you are neutering your dog at 2 - probably is a good time as any to just have quick xrays done to make sure those teeth are truly missing.


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My one year old golden is missing molars behind lower canines on both sides! has anyone experienced this? All other teeth are in...would this be genetic...she did not have injury or dispemper/parvo...help!! google says may be embedded but you can not feel anything below gum, redness from top teeth touching gum..
Missing premolars are fairly common, particularly in some lines. It won't cause a problem for your dog but you SHOULD check see if they are there via radiographs when you alter her or just find yourself able to get to the vet's.
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If this is genetic, would you expect breeder to participate in the expense of exploring lack of molars?
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In all honesty, I personally would not. Dogs are not a manufactured good. There is risk to adding any living being to your family. A responsible breeder does their best to produce healthy puppies but they know there are no perfect dogs and weird things they have never seen in their dogs pops out sometimes and are beyond control. My Italian girl is Ichthyosis affected and no, I did not ask her breeder to pay for the testing nor do I fault her in the slightest since testing is not normal in her country. It will also never impact her quality of life or my plans for her so, I figure she is my dog and her care is my responsibility. Missing teeth or extra teeth are generally similar in that if they are missing or extras there is really not going to be an impact on the quality of life and yes it is a know issue in the breed but dogs with full dentition can produce it.

If one of my buyers approached me about it, I would work something out out privately as there is not guarantee on dentition in my contract.


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As a side note, I have heard of and seen missing teeth in Goldens. I have never personally heard of a Golden needing surgery for impacted teeth. It certainly could happen which is why you are getting the recommendation to check but based on my experience in the breed, missing is the likely cause and has no quality of life impact.


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If this is genetic, would you expect breeder to participate in the expense of exploring lack of molars?
No, premolars are fairly commonly missing.. and it's not something that is easy to track w pedigree, skips generations, etc , and nothing much will come of it problem-wise.
No breeder would deliberately breed into a dentition problem, but that's the sort of thing that so many dogs finish a CH with that most people never know is something w a stud dog unless they think to ask. There isn't any remedy for missing premolars, you can't put fake ones in!
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