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Working on jumps in Rally...

Any suggestions to use at home to encourage jumping over something? We have a major dislike of jumping over things. We qualified today in our first two intermediate legs and I 100% know we will not be doing any Advance until spring because she does not want to jump in class etc. She goes down as soon as she sees a jump. Or will attempt to go around it.

Any ideas or suggestions on how to start out slow with her?
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Make a jump to train with at home - and keep jumps low. You don't need big jumps for rally. <= I don't remember the rules but doubt she'd be jumping more than 12" for rally.

If it helps - here's a quick instruction thingy that I did for somebody else.

If you can get somebody to just cut a piece of vinyl siding (since you only need 1 4 x 10 piece) - you can get this really put together very cheaply.

Even with the $12-15 or whatever it was for the vinyl siding, the entire jump was about $20 bucks to make.

For training - I'd just do treat toss jumps to motivate her.

That's standing in front of the jump with her and training her to jump UP over the jump. You will stay in front of the jump and call her to come and as she jumps back - you are tossing a treat back behind you to reward.

So toss treat forward to send her over and treat toss behind to draw her back. Try not to throw until she's in the air so she's not learning to cheat.

For rally - a lot of people just teach the jog by jumps (where you are running and the dogs jump because the jump's in their path), but I do remember they have "send to jump" commands in advanced (or maybe it's excellent - I forget) which need to be trained anyway.

Jovi is working on 14-16" jumps. By the time he's 15-18 months old, we will start bumping that up to 20" and then 24" after clearances.

You can see in the pic - with 10" jumps he's kinda trotting over instead of jumping.
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Make a jump to train with at home - and keep jumps low. You don't need big jumps for rally. <= I don't remember the rules but doubt she'd be jumping more than 12" for rally.

If it helps - here's a quick instruction thingy that I did for somebody else.

If you can get somebody to just cut a piece of vinyl siding (since you only need 1 4 x 10 piece) - you can get this really put together very cheaply.

Even with the $12-15 or whatever it was for the vinyl siding, the entire jump was about $20 bucks to make.

For training - I'd just do treat toss jumps to motivate her.

That's standing in front of the jump with her and training her to jump UP over the jump. You will stay in front of the jump and call her to come and as she jumps back - you are tossing a treat back behind you to reward.

So toss treat forward to send her over and treat toss behind to draw her back. Try not to throw until she's in the air so she's not learning to cheat.

For rally - a lot of people just teach the jog by jumps (where you are running and the dogs jump because the jump's in their path), but I do remember they have "send to jump" commands in advanced (or maybe it's excellent - I forget) which need to be trained anyway.

Jovi is working on 14-16" jumps. By the time he's 15-18 months old, we will start bumping that up to 20" and then 24" after clearances.

You can see in the pic - with 10" jumps he's kinda trotting over instead of jumping.
Thank you. I will look into that for home. I might even have some vinyl siding here I can use. We are going to *hopefully* finish our third leg end of August as no other shows work w/ my work schedule until then. I did decide today after intermediate we are going to take a break from trials until spring to work on “off leash” in ring/the jump.

She just turned one, will likely have her second heat September-November time frame...then a spay at some point prior to spring, so lots of time to “get the jump right.” This might help making jumping fun to her because she’s pretty good with targets/Platforms/place because we made it a game. Just have to figure out how to make that little jump “fun.” Don’t think my lab would like to be her “jump.” Haha

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Do very low jumps to start. Low enough for her to walk over. Walk over it with her on leash. The more she understands and gains confidence the less help you give and the higher the jump gets. Mine “jump” a short jump when they are babies. Making a jump for home like this one is a great idea!


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Do very low jumps to start. Low enough for her to walk over. Walk over it with her on leash. The more she understands and gains confidence the less help you give and the higher the jump gets. Mine “jump” a short jump when they are babies. Making a jump for home like this one is a great idea!
Part of me thinks it’s a “mental” block w/ her because when she’s chasing balls in the house, she has an excellent ability to leave her toys in her path. And when she sees them she “jumps” over them to avoid while going after the ball. It’s the funniest thing. So maybe if I use this in an area where she has to go over it to get the ball, or no ball, will be an option?

I know one of her “aunt” dogs hates the jump in Rally. And in reality...if we never make it past Intermediate...the world won’t end lol
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I would just make the jumps and set them up out in your lawn area (somewhere where if she jumps, it's soft landing for her elbows).

You are teaching her the "jump" command and getting her used to going over a jump. And again because she's young and growth plates may be closing still - keep the jumps low.

There are two reasons why a dog might be going around a jump -

1. they haven't been trained yet that the jump is a route vs an obstacle. This is why having something close to the site picture and situation on a rally course helps.

2. there is some discomfort in jumping. If she persists in not liking jumps and shows strong aversion - I wouldn't push it.

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I would just make the jumps and set them up out in your lawn area (somewhere where if she jumps, it's soft landing for her elbows).

You are teaching her the "jump" command and getting her used to going over a jump. And again because she's young and growth plates may be closing still - keep the jumps low.

There are two reasons why a dog might be going around a jump -

1. they haven't been trained yet that the jump is a route vs an obstacle. This is why having something close to the site picture and situation on a rally course helps.

2. there is some discomfort in jumping. If she persists in not liking jumps and shows strong aversion - I wouldn't push it.
Inside would actually be softer landing for her because I have plush carpeting. As far as the reasons I’m leaning towards 1 because I’ve started blocking off access to furniture because she realized she can jump on it and jump off it thanks to my friend’s children.

I just filled out getting a fob for my training facility so I can dedicate 6 months in a ring w/ a jump as much as I want to do outside club training hours. Outdoors at my house is her in overdrive with her nose due to the vast array of woodland creatures. And birds...oh how she loves to watch her birds...
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