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Talking Waitlist check in

How are people on waitlists hanging in there? What are you doing to keep busy? Are you still enjoying the anticipation or are you getting antsy?
Well, for me, I've joined this forum to continue my research and to keep my mind occupied. I watch Tucker videos everyday. I peruse golden groups on Facebook to enjoy other people's goldens. I also make a little list on my phone of the cool things I want to buy for my pup. And I of course check the waitlist!
I am #13 and the dam is about to go into heat any time now. I've been on the wait list since March 9th and will be here until my pup is born!


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I assume you are waiting on the litter that the little sticker is doing advertising for on some of your other posts... have you considered the pedigree? Here is the dam's k9data page-http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=1005305 much of it is unknown. This breeder states on their site that they only breed w all 4 core clearances, but the reality is this-https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?f=sr&appnum=1997150 inadequate cardiac, eyes done for first time a year ago (and out of date this week), came out of sire and dam with zero clearances for anything... I dk who she uses for stud dog- the puppy she has she says she bought for her stud when he's old enough but that attitude is a very detrimental to the breed attitude. Stud dogs are easy to find- the BEST stud dog is available to ethical breeders (who is he? he is a different dog for every bitch but that's the point...)
THIS is the dog she calls 'stud dog' on her site- https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?f=sr&appnum=1979347 and his pedigree/OFA record https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?f=sr&appnum=1979347 not stellar and certainly not an attempt to bring down a COI.. two dogs who have little in common except their lack of merit pedigree-wise.
Anyway- you have posted so many times that little advertising sticker and the mods probably haven't noticed it has a breeder name on it. It may be a blessing you are number 12 or whatever on this litter because it does not look like a super safe breeding.

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When I asked about the k9 data at midnight last night they said they would start filling it out. So what you’re looking at is brand new information posted and likely isn’t complete. I understand that the Creed people have some questionable ethics as I’ve found they’ve been breeding dams less than 2 years without clearances. But Tucker has all his clearances and so does Harley so what is there to be worried about?

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With all my years in Goldens- many decades actually- I would find it worrisome. Pedigree: Miss Harley Quinn if you look @ the page I began for her (the info is not complete because I would have to order her pedigree on AKC to finish it up- since grandparents aren't trackable on OFA due to no clearances- sometimes we can build a k9data page going back and forth from OFA but not in this case...in other words, if it were findable, I could find it) you will notice she has a heart clearance that is essentially useless, especially so when you add in that neither of her parents had the first clearance on anything at all. Goldens have cardiac issues. ONLY A CARDIOLOGIST clearance is adequate for a Golden.
That's just one piece of it.
Harley- https://www.ofa.org/advanced-search?f=sr&appnum=1979347 eyes out of date, inadequate cardiac clearance. His pedigree is full of dogs without sufficient clearances to breed on.
I know you're excited but think there is plenty there to worry about. Perhaps others will chime in. The research and transparency is so very important when choosing a dog to spend your life with.

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What about Golden Rule Retrievers? They’re my back up.
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For educational purposes- cardiac clearances:Goldens- you want a clearance that either starts with ACA- or ends with C-VPI or C-PI or C-NOPI.. not one that ends with P-VPI, P-PI, etc. That "P" means practitioner (and the PI part has to do with the identification of the dog). Frankly, unless that practitioner did a residency in cardiology (which we know s/he did not or s/he'd have gotten boarded shortly after) that clearance is absolutely worthless. It's only marginally better than an experienced lay person listening (and I mean no slight to the practitioner in saying that- none whatever. It's just what it is worth wise in a Golden). Why does OFA take P clearances? Because there are many breeds who do not require a cardiologist. OFA is going to ACA clearances and those require a cardiologist. But for a GOLDEN RETRIEVER, a P clearance has never been in line with the Code of Ethics.
Cardiac issues are not issues that are rare in Goldens. They are fairly common. I have no basis for my guess that cardiac issues are more common than hip issues other than 'what I hear of' but I hear of an awful lot.

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What about Golden Rule Retrievers? They’re my back up.
post sire and dam info (reg name or number) and someone will screen it for you!
or maybe someone has time to go to their site and find upcoming litters and screen those. I gotta go get my elder's feet tended to....

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Thank you for your input. I will ask my breeder about it.

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They’ve been nothing but transparent the entire time and have removed their own dogs from being potential sires due to heart problems or conformational issues and had them neutered. This dam and sire pair have one litter together already.

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I'm with prism on this one. I looked at all the pictures and maybe I'm a snob but when I purchased a golden puppy I wanted it to look like this (pic below). Any breeder that doesn't know what the breed standard is shouldn't be putting out puppies. These people do nothing with their dogs, they don't compete in any venue to verify their dogs are worth breeding. They just produce puppies. They have no idea about structure so must assume they know nothing about breeding a biddable (trainable) dog with good temperament. I have kids, grand kids and great grand kids.. LOL and cats. I also have special needs grand kids and want to know the pup I buy can go anywhere, be around anything or anybody and not panic or become frightened or nervous.

This is what I think a golden should look like.

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