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Questions to Ask Breeders?

Hi! I am starting my breeder search with the help of this site. Does anyone have a list of questions to ask? Are there any answers that we be a red flag?
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REgistered names of sire and dam.
You will need these to be able to verify the core 4 clearances are done (and if you can't do it, just post reg names here and someone will do for you- since there is nuance involved in some cases)

Reason sire chosen for dam.

Dog sport done with personal dogs by breeder.

There are tons of red flags- so many it'd be hard to list them- but generally, if you find a breeding where sire and dam both have all 4 core clearances and it's dogs who have reason to believe are correct via titles or certificates or even just photos, and they don't PayPal to pay, you are likely on the right track.
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REgistered names of sire and dam.
You will need these to be able to verify the core 4 clearances are done (and if you can't do it, just post reg names here and someone will do for you- since there is nuance involved in some cases)

Reason sire chosen for dam.

Dog sport done with personal dogs by breeder.

There are tons of red flags- so many it'd be hard to list them- but generally, if you find a breeding where sire and dam both have all 4 core clearances and it's dogs who have reason to believe are correct via titles or certificates or even just photos, and they don't PayPal to pay, you are likely on the right track.
No good breeder uses their own dog on all their own bitches.
Thank you for that information! That is very helpful! Curious - why is PayPal a red flag? Are most deposits and such paid by check?
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Mine are all by check or MO- or cash, I suppose is fine... but PP vendors have a tendency to be the same who also don't discriminate much about who gets a puppy and who doesn't. The whole PP pay here thing is to me (others mileage may vary but I would be surprised really) very offputting, more like buying a toaster.

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That makes sense - thank you! One last question - what do you mean by "Dog sport done with personal dogs by breeder"? Thanks again for your help!!
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This is a document the GRCA has on their website regarding questions to ask breeders.
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That makes sense - thank you! One last question - what do you mean by "Dog sport done with personal dogs by breeder"? Thanks again for your help!!
I'm of the opinion (and I think it's a reasonable and commonly held opinion) that people who just breed dogs and do nothing with them are not able to be good judges of what they are doing structure wise and temperament wise... and that sort of breeder -who has no feedback because they do nothing but breed- isn't likely to ever produce an animal who's got everything going for him. They're very likely to be what we call 'kennel blind'.

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This forum has SO much useful information in the old threads - if you are willing to take them time and do some reading, you can learn a lot. Glad you found this site at the beginning of your search, so many people only start asking after they've put a deposit down on a puppy and my heart just sinks when it becomes obvious they have not put the time in they should have on their groud work. This is one of those things that you don't begin to know everything you don't know, if that makes sense.

The www.grca.org site is a good resource to read over every bit of what's there. Also, use the search feature on this site and read through the questions that other people have posted about breeders. As you read through the questions and the responses they receive you can start to learn things that apply to your search too.

You want a breeder who is doing something with their dogs for sure. Anyone who never takes their dog anywhere except to the vet and then says their dog is the best dog ever/amazing teperament is ony telling you that their dog is wonderful when she's secure in the safety of her own home. How about when she's away from home and unfamiliar surroundings with new faces and strange dogs? That's when you find out a lot more about how stable and reliable a dog's temperament is. If a breeder says her dogs are wonderful service dog prospects or super smart and just great Goldens - well how do you know for sure if she' never trains them enough to achieve a certain level of proficiency in a competition with other dogs? You may never care about showing your dog or getting a ribbon at an obedience trial or hunt test but you want a dog that doesn't take a professional to get a well mannnered dog who is easy to teach things to. You want your dog to look and act like a great representative of the breed and people who compete with and put a lot of time and effort into their Goldens are generally going to give you the best odds of a puppy who will grow into a wondeful Golden Retriever. Health clearances and attention to raising the puppies carefully help give you the best odds possible, that's why the legwork is so important.

Have fun with your search and take plenty of time, you will have to live with the dog for the next 12 years and you want it to be a happy experience Taking your time is worth it.


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Your need here may vary, but I have found with my two goldens that choosing the breeder is more important than the specific breeding. Because I chose well, my pups are spectacular in every way.

I did not know it the first time around and was blessed by lucky accident. My pupsí breeders are a source of information, advice, help and friendship each step along the way. And I didnít know I would want or need that, but I sure am glad I got it.

I am a better owner for it and my pups have a better quality of life.

Every golden puppy is cute. Choose a support that will be a joy for the long haul.

Good luck.

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