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What do breeders look for in buyers?

Danaruns has posted some interesting questions about what buyers look for in a puppy, so I thought I'd turn it around and ask what do you breeders look for in a buyer? When you review puppy applications what makes you choose one over another to put on your approved list?

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I look for the very best homes I can find. I prefer people who have had Golden puppies before. I want a rock solid home, who will give the puppy an amazing life. My only concern is for the puppies. I don't care about the buyers, at all. I'm very mercenary about it. The pups go to homes where I believe they will get a lifetime of love and will live big little lives.

I am responsible for those little lives. I brought them into the world. It is my solemn duty to do the very best I can to find great homes for them. I don't have a particular model, like only families with a fenced yard and no small kids. I've placed puppies with single people, renters, old people, people in condos, people on farms. I just need to know the puppy will be loved, won't be abused, will be safe, and that the life s/he lives will be one any dog would envy.

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I'm responding in Dana's post about what buyers do when they aren't getting a pup I passed basically the same question/statement...

That breeder's explain what made them deny people from their waiting lists. What are the things that keep people from buying a pup from them. This would really help people on this forum that are having troubles.

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I'm going to repost my response to you from that thread here, because it's more appropriate.

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I think what would help a lot of people and on this site especially is if the breeders give accounts in why they denied entry to their waiting lists and explain some instances of what happened to lead to that denial.
I don't "deny" people so much as I choose the best homes. As I've said here several times, for the litter that produced my new champion boy, Deuce, I had 134 bona fide applicants for 8 puppies. So it's not like I actively denied any of them, I just picked the best homes I could find from that group, and the other 126 people had to keep looking.

And just because I mentioned him, here is a picture of my boy Deuce at 18 months. It's not relevant, I just love him. You should just be glad I don't have photos of my children to bother you with.



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I look for the very best homes I can find.
But how do you make that judgement? What about those 8 homes from Deuce's litter was better than the other 126? Were there any toss ups? That just seems like an incredibly daunting task. My breeder is one of the nicest people in the world, and she rejects people all the time. Do you just develop this extra sense about people and how they really are?

Of course there are always certain things people say that can rule them out immediately, but when you have 134 excellent candidates, it would seem impossible to choose. I think I would have to develop a matrix or rubric for rating people... Some sort of tangible system.
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great question
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But how do you make that judgement? What about those 8 homes from Deuce's litter was better than the other 126? Were there any toss ups? That just seems like an incredibly daunting task. My breeder is one of the nicest people in the world, and she rejects people all the time. Do you just develop this extra sense about people and how they really are?

Of course there are always certain things people say that can rule them out immediately, but when you have 134 excellent candidates, it would seem impossible to choose. I think I would have to develop a matrix or rubric for rating people... Some sort of tangible system.
There's nothing magical about it. There is no set of requirements that, if we tick all the boxes, you get a puppy. There is nothing you can say, do, or be that will automatically qualify you (though there are things that will automatically disqualify you).

So, these were 134 applicants who passed an initial evaluation and were sent and returned a puppy questionnaire.

The 8 homes who got a puppy from Deuce's litter simply stood out. One was someone we knew who has a history with performance Goldens and provides a great home and life. If I'm reincarnated as a Golden, I want to be one of her dogs. Another was an active couple who work at Google, which has its own doggy day care at their campus, so the dog comes to work with them every day in addition to all the other things that made them a good candidate. A couple families live on big property and take their dogs on all sorts of fulfilling adventures so we knew the puppies would have fulfilling lives. The puppy they got is the center of their lives. One family was so excited about the puppy that they visited the litter several times and stayed a long time each time. Their kids made things for the puppies. They brought toys. Another buyer was a referral from a breeder friend of ours, who vouched for him, and he had had one of her dogs for 14 years. Stuff like that.

Yes, there were some toss ups. So, we just made a decision, likely on some little thing we liked about them. Trivial things. Maybe one lived close to us, or we knew they would send us pictures and keep us updated throughout the puppy's life. One got our attention because they were gay, as are we, of course. At some point it becomes a gut thing. Frankly, there were probably dozens of homes we would have been comfortable putting puppies in.

Of course, we investigated each person on the list. One guy said all the right things and was on the list for getting a puppy, but we discovered some information that made us uncomfortable, so we moved on from that guy to one of the many other qualified people.

It's more an art than a science.

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Thank you Dana. That clears things up a little bit. Do you look people up on social media to see what they have that's public?

To do this day, I feel so lucky that my breeder picked us for Rocket, even though he is our first Golden.

Do you ever get homes that just seem to need a puppy more than other homes?
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Do you ever get homes that just seem to need a puppy more than other homes?
This will sound cold, but I don't care about that and don't factor it in.

I made these little lives. My responsibility is to them, not to the buyers. My sole and overriding goal is to put each puppy in a home where, at the end of each puppy's life, I will be able to look back and say, "That puppy had an incredible life! What a lucky puppy!" That's it. That's my only consideration. I'm not in the business of selling puppies. Puppy buyers aren't my customers. I owe no duty to the buyers except to provide the best, healthiest puppies I can.

Now, if I'm down to trying to choose between homes and one home "just seems to need a puppy more than the other homes," I might take that into account, all other things being equal. But the way to guarantee that you get a puppy from me is to be the most incredible dog home I have ever seen. That's it.

This will probably make some folks angry with me. But I have to be honest about this. I care about the puppies. My duty is to the puppies. The potential buyers and their needs mean nothing to me, and I'm not here to satisfy their needs. I think only about the needs of the puppies. Sorry not sorry.

I note I'm the only breeder contributing to this thread. Ha! Fair, I guess, since I'm asking buyers questions.
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I would like to put in my two cents. I am not a regular breeder, bred only one litter but was extremely fussy as to where my pups went. My breeding was a field dog breeding. I looked for the following in potential buyers:


1. Field trial, hunt test, hunting home preferred
2. Dog savvy
3. No small children in the house
4. If buyer just wanted a pet, not a working dog, I recommended another breeder.
5. If not a working home, buyer had to be extremely active with the dog due to his activities.
6. Buyer had to have a willingness to keep in touch with me. Plus we have a FB page where we keep in touch.
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