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post #11 of 95 (permalink) Old 01-30-2011, 04:09 PM
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Just to say "I LOVE FLATTIES!!!!!!!!!!)
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I show and breed flat coats and work with Flat coat rescue....goldens go back to flat coats around the mid 1800's as there is a recessive yellow in flat coats... which is why often you will see goldens come up with a black mismark

Most dogs labelled as flat coats in shelters are golden/lab mixes or border collie/lab mixes....

Flat Coats are NOT more aloof than goldens they are happy happy happy dogs and are MUCH higher energy than most goldens ... they are more like a field bred golden... I often think of my flat coats as border collies without the work ethic... their whole goal in life is to have fun.

The most distinctive thing about a flat coat is head shape and eye shape... with an almond shaped eye and very little stop to the head.... when we ID a dog we are looking for racy not weedy and many of us are "head hunters" so we look immediately for a distinctive flat coat head

Unfortunately like many breeds flat coats are plagued by cancer with an average age of 7 .... we know the ages.... some die very young of cancer 2 but then if you can get them to 7 or 8 many of our flat coats die at 5 you are probably good from 9-11 if you can get them past 11 you might hit 13 there are just these age brackets that alot of dogs die in and they get all sorts of cancer

so here are a few of my kids




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Good info! Thank you. I'm guessing that there's probably a snowball's chance in hell that this dog is either flat coat or golden. I could definitely believe springer/lab mix...

I can't believe I didn't know what a flat coated retriever was lol
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I too ADORE flat coated retrievers and hope one day to have one. Wonderful dogs. Simply gorgeous and full of fun and personality to the fill.
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Me too, I think they're stunning....
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the problem wiht flat coats is that people think they are like goldens.... and they ARE NOT they are very very different.... when I want someone to go out and play with I grab a flat coat... when I want a dog to pet I will grab a golden

My flat coats absolutely know how to push buttons... I have caught them ON my kitchen counters... they are smart enough to push buttons and while very very smart training can be a challenge because they get bored... They are birdy and driven and opportunistic. I had been training for obedience near a pond... and then for a treat as a reward was throwing a bumper and my girl went for the bumper the first time... never looked at the pond... second time... third .... came back forth time she got out for the bumper looked at me... looked at the pond... and made a choice and it wasn't me... the people at the playground were hysterical.... these are my dogs that can scale my six foot stockade and will do it just to let me know they can...
The first picture is my Meir On the second tier of the cat tree.... Cats were not pleased... in the bottom notice that she is inside the ex-pens and the size of the hole.... in my now non existent garden....

I adore these dogs but they are not for everyone and they are NOT like goldens....







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OMG Shalva! Those holes! They're, they're, so numerous! What craziness! I'm sure those holes get quite annoying, but it makes for a good story and picture : )



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Why would this "lady" want a dog that will die before the dog is 7?
I think you misunderstood what Ranger was saying. I think she meant that the lady didn't understand why someone would get a dog that has an average life span that was so low...not that the lady wanted to know where to find one.
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My Raine is most likely a border collie, retriever mix. She has the beautiful FCR tail, but her muzzle is shorter and she doesn't have retriever ears. Her ears are laid back flat against her head and much shorter and she has tiny touches of white on her paws, and a bit on her chest. She is a pretty laid back girl for the most part, and smaller than the average retriever. She had a pretty bad load of Heartworm before I adopted her, and even tho the vet says no, I swear it affected her energy levels. However when she does play, she tends to want to run herd, and knock Mitch down, like the BCs do the sheep when they try to run from the flock. Oh yea, she has also been known to jump a 6 ft stockade fence, in addition to climbing chain link fences, of different heights.
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