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Old 07-26-2012, 04:16 PM
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Thanks, Teresa. He's a real bugger to get the tranq in the juglar but after that he was really cooperative...with his nose on the ground. lol

Then 3 days rest. We're leaving for Lake Michigan on Sunday. I decided this was a good time to get him injected and lay up.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:26 PM
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Bump!!

How'a everyone's horses doing??

Virge is good. He's still with the same paddock buddy and they're still getting along. His paddock mate destroyed one of his fly sheets this summer and Virge has a few bite marks, but they're all superficial. They seem to occasionally butt heads over who's in charge! Yesterday, Virgil charged at her and she swung around threatening to kick him. A bit of a problem since i was in the paddock taking Virgil's blanket off. They both got a CTJ meeting. I left them with their heads down and grazing together...so message received.

Only bad thing is the weather is fluctuating wildly up here which always makes me worry for colic. Saturday it dropped to -17 C during the day and down to -25 C (-31 with windchill) at night. I drove out to double blanket but had to go out again the next day when it warmed up to +3! More than 20 degree fluctuation in under 12 hours.

Right now it's warm enough during the day that a blanket isn't needed (slightly above zero) but dropping into the double digits at night. So frustrating!

Overall though, Virgil is happy and healthy! The farrier that's worked on him for the past 11 years just moved so we've got another one coming in...hopefully she's as good as the last one, but I'm doubtful.

How's everyone else?
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:41 PM
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Tentatively good?

My guy is restricted to being brought in at night again - partly because of the temps dropping, but also because according to my barn lady he's a stud brain and runs around chasing horses all day. He was getting too thin.

She's now worming him a bit more frequently because of his age (I can't believe he's going to be 27! - which means I've known him for 20 years?!), and she added a couple supplements and bumped him all the way over to senior feed. He feels great.

We very nearly had a catastrophe (me blowing a gasket) the other day because she called me in the morning to let me know they couldn't find his blanket and she thought that it had been thrown away. <- Brand new blanket. o_O I told her it was brand new and couldn't have gotten that torn up yet so it has to be out there on another horse. I think there are still blankets for sale, but the sizes are probably slim pickings by now. o_O

I am planning to sneak out there tomorrow to hunt for his blanket (it's probably on one of the other horses), but at least she found a spare for my guy so he's warm. We were spoiled by a warm weekend, so of course the seasonably cold temps feel REALLY COLD.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:37 PM
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Wow, 27!! I hope Virgil gets there! Ten more years...

What supplements is he now on? For weight? I moved Virgil onto the barn's feeding program after two bags of feed went rancid on me within the span of 2 weeks. His coat has darkened dramatically (which is sometimes does in the winter but not always) and he put on a few needed pounds before winter.
He's on:
- beet pulp
- ration balancer
- Source (which I love for older horses!)
- corta-flx (makes a huge difference in his comfort)
- flax
- magnesium oxide

Just started him on the magnesium a week ago. Apparently he's showing signs of 'magnesium deficiency', so we'll see if this will help settle him down. I'll be kicking myself if I see a noticeable difference...why I didn't I know this 12 years ago!

As for the missing blanket, I'd be furious. The blanket laundry woman lost the first cooler I ever won with Virgil. Since then, I've sharpied his name and my last name and phone number on the outside of every blanket in black sharpie (and silver on the black blankets). It looks ugly but oh well. Its amazing how blankets can 'disappear'! Hope you get yours back! That's great the BM put a spare on your guy to keep him warm in the meantime.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:06 PM
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I used to give corta-flex to my guy - and would definitely use it again, except my barn lady just charges me ten bucks a month to keep him on what she uses for her horses (Vita Flex MSM). I couldn't pass up a good deal and it seems to work for him. He only needs the chiropractor every 3 months or so? And he's strong and sound.

Early summer I had a freak out when I saw how thin he looked again and we had a vet come out and do a full blood check. My barn lady and I were literally crying over the phone while we discussed end of life decisions that I might need to make. I broached the subject because I felt he was not thriving. I saw his dad and grandmother go through the same thing before their health started failing. His grandmother was in her 40's and darn it but I'm hoping he lives that long as well.

Blood test showed he was anemic. So my barn lady got him on Red Cell and that made a huge difference. He started eating better and had more energy out in the field. He still is too thin, but he's sound as an ox for once.

Those are two two main supplements. There are a couple other things... like the vet thinks he had the beginning stages of cushings. My barn lady and I don't believe it, but he's getting that supplement in his food.

The senior feed is supposed to boost things for him and help him keep weight on. I've given Source and a couple other supplements some thought, but we will see how he does this winter. I've definitely given my barn lady full permission to keep the vet on speed dial and I want him to get extra food and extra hay in his stall to keep him healthy. Last winter he lost weight and I don't want that to happen again. Normally by this time of the year he should be getting a nice layer of fat. >- And I know that my barn lady is skimping on hay too (not with him) because of the shortage. >.<

The great thing though is he's still a sweetheart. He's MEAN to the other horses (stud brain), but like when I go there with Jacks I never worry about Zorro stepping on him or biting him. Jacks will lay down and just hang out in the stall with us while I groom, and Zorro only will do the nose snuffle at Jacks' head or back.

ETA - Oh, the blanket has "Zorro" sharpied a few times on it. So I should find it easily. It depends on what the spare looks like. The one I got last year was longer to provide more warmth and coverage for him. Even if he looked like he was wearing a dress.
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I'm glad to hear both Virgil and Zorro are doing relatively well.

Megora - a couple of my friends have cushings horses and they give them pergalyde(sp?) and it has really helped. I think it is a liquid that gets squirted into their mouths 1 or 2 times a day. I'm glad Zorro is feeling well even if a little thin. Stud brain and a bit of arab atttitude makes a potent mix.

Ranger - those temps horrify me! I am such a southern wuss. I'm glad Virg is doing well with his pasture mate especially after the time you had last year.

Penny's Mom - I hope Harry is doing well.

My little guy is doing well, but he gave me a flying lesson a few weeks ago. I didn't think he would or could! I met up with a group of 15 or so and we were at the tail end. Mack does NOT approve of being behind and having to walk slow - he has quite a fast walk for a little chunky guy. He got his head down and I could not get it up so third buck meant I hit the ground. I need to improve my riding and definitely his training. We'll work on it through the winter and then he will go to my trainer for at least a month next spring. He's in a shank bit for now so I have more leverage and we have been working on rating his pace, but he still balls up and I have to get in front for while.

We were supposed to go camping this weekend with the riding group, but thank goodness they cancelled. It is going to be in the 30's at night and I woulod freeze in a tent. I did mention I'm a wuss right????
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Uh oh, flying lessons are never fun! Hope you're feeling okay! Silly Mack. Virgil was the same way. He couldn't stand being last in the line but wasn't quite confident enough to lead the way, so he was always second. Usually at his nose glued to the tail of the lead horse (especially when it was a mare!) so we had to make sure the lead horse wasn't a kicker. Only time Virgil could lead the way was when we had to jump something! One time we had to go through a little ditch and Virgil's brain almost fried because he couldn't figure out how to canter down it in one stride and then back up in one stride. All the horses passed him and he was getting more and more upset...not only was he LAST but the other horses were getting out of sight. Luckily, lead horse came back and guided Virgil through it...I think he was more worried that he was going to get left again so he blasted through it and then almost bucked me off at the top!! Crazy boy!

Megora - We had a teen TB school horse at the barn I used to train at. He had always been skinny, especially in the winter, but when he got around 14 he was almost skeletal. Owner gave him beet pulp, complete feed, sweet feed (which isn't great for putting weight on but she was hoping it would give him some energy). A boarder was using red cell on her horse and it was making him crazy - rearing being led, bucking when being ridden - so she gave it to the owner. After a week of being on it, skinny TB started piling on the pounds in a way I'd never seen before! He started getting downright exuberant and kids were flying off him left, right, and center! Oops. Unfortunately, owner couldn't have her school horse bucking kids off so he went off the red cell...and promptly lost weight and energy. I think it's a good product for horses that need that boost.

I really do like the Source. I'm debating taking Virge off it. He's doing well, but then that could be because of the Source! BO thinks I should take him off it...we'll see.

Have you ever tried the Smartpak supplement wizard? It's pretty interesting. They don't deliver up here but I filled it out for Virgil and then make adjustments as necessary.
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No flying lesson today, but I was with friends who let me in front most of time and anytime I needed to.

Mack loves checking out the trail and is quite brave so leading is no problem. We lead some gaited horses and he outwalked them. Still a long way to go. He is an opinionated greenbean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Speaking of opinionated horses...I rode Virgil today! Our first ride since March!

I've got a friend who has ridden all her life but her horse passed away a few years ago and she had a disastrous time at a riding stable then got preggers...so she's been out of horses for a year or so and wants to get back in. I offered Virgil for a sorta-lease (she knows him and his 'quirks') and she came out today to see if it might work.

Mr. Virgil was a champ! He was so mellow on the ground while we brushed him. Tried to make friends with the horses tied up next to him but didn't succeed I was originally just going to do some in-hand work with side reins today but he was soooo calm...I just hopped on! Helmeted, of course!

He walked around, stared at himself in the mirror, stopped and craned his neck to get cookies a few times (can you tell he's gotten spoiled in retirement?) and was just a joy. We did a little trot which got him a little excited but he was pretty sound!

So, my friend and I are going to go out together for the next month til she gets comfortable handling him; he's usually a dream to ride (usually) but can be a bit overbearing on the ground. Then we'll go from there! I'm hoping she'll be able to ride him a few times a week when I'm busy at school. A few times this term it was close to 3 weeks between visits

The best part? As soon we bridled him, my friend noticed how soft his eye got. He's just so happy to be 'working,' even if it is just walking around an indoor ring for 20 minutes. Hard to believe he's 18 years old next year!
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