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Unfortunately, Bailey's seizure was not a one time occurrence. We experienced our second one today...slightly more intense than the last. Thankfully, I had some liquid Valium on hand from the last time and I felt more comfortable in handling her after everyone's stories they shared with me. After we get results from her blood test, I will share what we know. Right now, it's another waiting game and hoping for an uneventful night.


One question for those experienced ones though...Bailey has been extremely hyper and unable to calm down this time. Last time, she slept most of the evening after, but this time she is bouncing off the walls. She is acting extremely playful and running around, chasing her tail, throwing her toys in the air. Has anyone else's pup acted this way after a seizure? I don't want her to get too worked up, but I don't want to force her to calm down if she's happy. Any advice?? Thank you.
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I do believe that can be a side effect from the seizure or even the liquid valium can make them hyper and puppy like. Tom hasn't been like that after a fit so hopefully somebody else may have experienced it

Sorry to hear Bailey has had another episode, and believe me I know how stressful and hopeless they can make you feel.
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I'm so sorry that Bailey had another seizure. Each one increases the likelihood of the next one, so I'm glad that you have had blood tests done.

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...One question for those experienced ones though...Bailey has been extremely hyper and unable to calm down this time. Last time, she slept most of the evening after, but this time she is bouncing off the walls. She is acting extremely playful and running around, chasing her tail, throwing her toys in the air. Has anyone else's pup acted this way after a seizure? I don't want her to get too worked up, but I don't want to force her to calm down if she's happy. Any advice?? Thank you.
Charlie's seizures started late in his life, so our circumstances were very different. However, at first he was very, very active after his grand mal seizures. I think that was partly fear - he knew something important had happened to him but he didn't know what - and partly the heightened electrical activity in his brain. It's called the "post-ictal phase" of seizure behavior. Here's a good reference: Canine Epilepsy Network.

I hope your vet is able to identify the cause of Bailey's seizures and help you get them under control
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Thank you. She was finally able to calm herself down and slept through the night with no problems. We will just take it day by day now until we know more!
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After Tailer's seizures he wants to go play tennis ball. I take him out but only throw the ball a few times then we just go for a quiet walk. He is hungry so I give him half another meal.

After I started doing the "Ocular Compressions" he was not nearly so hyper after. Have you looked into that?

You mentioned bloodworm, what are they testing for? Hopefully a full thyroid panel with antiglobulin too. Have you looked at the Hemopet.org site yet? Doc Jean Dodds is very helpful, she will e-mail back answers to your questions...very helpful Lady.

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It has been a very busy week for us, but Bailey's blood work came back and there was nothing abnormal, thankfully. They did run a full panel, including her thyroid. The vet concluded at this point that is either the result of an intoxication (which he feels is unlikely due to the length of time between her seizures) or epilepsy. He said at this point he does not feel the need for medication, but if she has another, we will reconsider. He gave her zykelene to keep her calm for a few days (we are in Germany), and so far so good.

Thanks for the advice on ocular compressions...I will definitely look into that. Anything I can do to ease it for her myself, I am willing to try.

I will keep you updated on her condition, but we will just take it day by day for now!

Thank you again for the support.
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What numbers did he have for thyroid T-3, T-4, Free T-3, Free T-4, and TgAA's. I would like to compair with Tailer's, just coz I an curious!

Did they do Magnisium Levels? I'd love to see that number too, if you have it...again, just to compair wit Sir Tailer's!

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Experiences with pheno?

It has been a while since I've posted here, although I keep up to date reading others stories. Bailey has had a rough few months, experiencing quite a few more seizures. We have been through quite a lot ourselves as we just moved, so I know the stress has had an effect on her. Our vet has put her on 100mg pheno and she's been steadily taking this twice a day for the past month.

Fortunately, our vet can't find a reason for the seizures (no tumors/thryoid issues/etc), leaving no other explanation except epilepsy. However, she has been having other neurological symptoms that are concerning to us...she has lost her balance a few times while going potty and she has a tendency to walk into doors/walls she knows are right in front of her. We are going to a neurologist for further details, but for now, this is where we are....

We are now experiencing a new set of issues. Ever since Bailey began the pheno, her behavior is awful! She is still young and always has had her 'puppy moments' but for the most part, she obeys very well. Now she does not listen to commands, she has forgotten what 'no' means, and seems to ignore any and everything. Has anyone else dealt with this after starting pheno?

I know this could have nothing to do with the medication, however it's too coincidental that it all started around the same time. I know the seizures have had a significant effect on her mood and stability. The slightest thing scares her half to death and she seems nervous all the time, except when she's getting in to mischief! She is a very happy dog most of the time, but it breaks my heart that she's having such a hard time.
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Hi BoomBug - I'm posting to offer support as I don't have experience of the behavioural issues you've mentioned, but I expect someone here will have.

So sorry you've been having such a difficult time with Bailey. Seizures are hard enough to cope with, without the extra stress and worry of new behaviours.

Wishing you and Bailey well,

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So sorry that you are going through such a tough time with your fabulous buddy. I also have a two year old and I cannot imagine how I would cope if this was happening to him. While Hudson is quite well behaved for his age I know that there are many posts about 2 year olds going through bratty stages.

The balancing issues sound like the Pheno to me but they could also be neurological. I found the Pheno increased anxiety and restlessness. We had to lower the amount which worked for us as we were not dealing with full blown seizures.

It is so difficult as every case is different I wish that I could offer more helpful advice. It sounds as though you are on the right track with your investigations. It will be a matter of trying the different medications and seeing which ones work best for you. Don't forget to ask about the side effects for each.

Wishing you the best of luck!
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