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Old 03-20-2011, 07:07 AM
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Pros and cons of the breed.

I am undecided about what breed I would like to get in a yr. I have always had rescues but I have gotten into training and I would lie to compete in conformation, obedience and rally shows I really like tracking and I am interested in hunt too.

So my question is what are the pros ands cons of this breed?

I love the looks of a well bred Golden but I have not really been around the breed that much so I am unsure or their personality. I have a friend that breeds goldens but her dogs can be quite snappy with other dogs they make great therapy dogs tho. I would not buy from her as I do not think they fit the conformational standard of the golden.

I hope to have all you guys responed to this question I am interested in learning about this breed.
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I am undecided about what breed I would like to get in a yr. I have always had rescues but I have gotten into training and I would lie to compete in conformation, obedience and rally shows I really like tracking and I am interested in hunt too.

So my question is what are the pros ands cons of this breed?

I love the looks of a well bred Golden but I have not really been around the breed that much so I am unsure or their personality. I have a friend that breeds goldens but her dogs can be quite snappy with other dogs they make great therapy dogs tho. I would not buy from her as I do not think they fit the conformational standard of the golden.

I hope to have all you guys responed to this question I am interested in learning about this breed.

Beyond what you feel about your friend's dogs not fitting the standard as regards conformation, she is breeding dogs with incorrect temperament. Being "quite snappy with other dogs" is unacceptable.

I would suggest going to a dog show - if possibe a Golden Retriever specialty - and looking at dogs, speaking with breeders, and determining what style you like. You'll also have an opportunity to see many dogs and get a feel for what correct, sound temperaments should be.

For most, the only "cons" of the breed are shedding and grooming needs. Health issues must be considered and if looking at breeders one must make sure that they are doing all clearances - hips/elbows, cardiac and ANNUAL CERF eye exams - and that there is at LEAST 3 generations with the same.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:50 AM
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I would also suggest going to hunt tests, agility trials and obedience/rally trials so you can see how a well trained golden is a complete joy to watch and be with While most goldens never hit the breed rings, they should be alert, happy and attentive partners with their humans and their temperament and working abilities really shine when working. Most goldens never hit the performance rings either, but you can get a feel for what most of us find so very special about our goldens.

A link that can help locate Conformation and Performance events in the US is the AKC site
American Kennel Club - Event and Awards Search

Pros: Their beauty, grace, endearing dogalities, love of life, love of their people, willingness to learn new things, willingness and joy to just hang out with you but turn on in an instant to work or play etc Most goldens adore water, swimming, being on boats etc

Cons: If you do not give them a job to do (training) many will find their own jobs and chances are you will be less than thrilled at what they settle on (land scaping, digging, stealing etc). They need to be brushed regularly, their nails and feet should be neatened up often, ticks can be hard to find under their coats - oh and if not properly exercised they can often become truly obese. If you cannot exercise a golden, please consider another breed. They can be prone to allergies and hypothyroidism.

Goldens are retrievers, so love, actually need, to carry things in their mouths and need to be well exercised.

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I might be slightly biased but the pro's of a Golden far outweigh the cons.

Pro's
- Considered the most affable, friendly dog in existance.
- Very patient
- One of the top 5 intelligent dogs
- Eager to please
- Considerably the nicest looking dog.
- Very easy to train
- A well bred golden is great with other dogs.

Cons
- Shedding
- Mud stuck in fur
- Bad breeders
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Pros: Most goldens adore water, swimming, being on boats etc
That is the true test of a Golden person, thinking a love of water and swimming to be a PRO.
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Cons: If you do not give them a job to do (training) many will find their own jobs and chances are you will be less than thrilled at what they settle on (land scaping, digging, stealing etc). They need to be brushed regularly, their nails and feet should be neatened up often, ticks can be hard to find under their coats - oh and if not properly exercised they can often become truly obese. If you cannot exercise a golden, please consider another breed. They can be prone to allergies and hypothyroidism.
This is so well put. Most of the cons are the flipside of the pros of a working retriever. They have exercise needs that range from moderate (two 1/2 hour walks a day) to high (you never really have a tired dog unless you're a hardcore hiker, competitor, or hunter). And they tend to be highly intelligent dogs who need to work. Other undesired jobs include chewing the wrong stuff, playing chase with children, jumping up on strangers, and bowling company over.

A well-bred Golden is an extraordinary dog, but he's not the right dog if you don't have time for training and daily exercise. He's also not the right dog if you want your dog to be aloof from strangers or self-sufficient (i.e., not begging for attention) at home. He's also the wrong dog if you don't want to have a few chew toys around the house or if you hate brushing out a dog's coat regularly.

I have two sleeping GRs next to me right now for a lazy Sunday morning, but that's only because we went to the dog show yesterday and hiked before and after it. Afterwards, there was a quick brushing to avoid mats and a not-so-quick tick check. And one of those two sleeping GRs has found a way to doze off with his head resting against my ribcage.

All of the pros are more consistently found in a well bred dog whose breeder competes in conformation or dogsport. Health problems are drastically higher in carelessly bred dogs, and carelessly bred dogs may lack proper temperament. All dogs are at risk for the common health problems (joint issues, hypothyroid, etc.), but the risks are vastly lower if the breeding is carefully done. A good breeder can also give you a good idea of the puppy's future exercise needs.

Do not take a GR on if you're not prepared to train and exercise him. You should do a puppy class together in a training environment that relies mostly on positive reinforcement and plan to move on to basic family obedience as a bare minimum. An untrained, hyper Golden will be miserable and will cause your family lots of grief.
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...undesired jobs include .... jumping up on strangers, and bowling company over.

An untrained, hyper Golden will be miserable and will cause your family lots of grief.
Truer words were never spoken.

Absolutely nothing better in the world than a well-exercised Golden sleeping peacefully by your side or on top of your side.
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A well-bred Golden is an extraordinary dog, but he's not the right dog if you don't have time for training and daily exercise. He's also not the right dog if you want your dog to be aloof from strangers or self-sufficient (i.e., not begging for attention) at home. He's also the wrong dog if you don't want to have a few chew toys around the house or if you hate brushing out a dog's coat regularly.
Now, THIS is so well-put! Perfect.

When I saw the title to this thread, my instant reaction was, there are no cons. But when I made myself really think about it, the only thing I could come up with was shedding, because it's a natural thing you can't change (though regular grooming does make it much easier to deal with).

What some might consider "cons"of the breed (the need for lots of exercise, lots of attention and love, lots of training and work to their minds busy and active; a tendency for dirt to get tracked into the house; the appearance of golden furry dust bunnies every so often) might just be signals that a Golden is not the right breed for them.

To me - there really are no cons. I love the breed and everything my dog brings to my life - even the need to get up an hour and a half earlier than necessary everyday to make sure she has time to run and play before I go to work - and the dirt on my duvet.
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Pros: They are very active, usually very friendly and get along well with other dogs and people. Never a dull moment :-) Very agile, very adapt at doing multiple competetive events, make wonderful therapy dogs.

Cons: Prone to allergies, low thyroid and Cancer.
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I don't have first hand experience with this since I rescued my guy when he was 9 months, but I think a con would the landshark phase most of the puppies go through. Because retrievers are, well, retrievers, they use their mouths a lot their entire lives. Puppyhood is spent teaching them what they can and can't use their mouths for. Another stage is the rebellious stage around 7-12 months but I think that's fairly common for all dog breeds.

This is a definite active breed of dog. Like others have said, they need a "job" to do and they need at least an hour's worth of physical activity a day plus some mental stimulation. A pro is that they are so intelligent and adaptable that they are suited to so many activies: agility, rally-o, obedience, etc so you have a ton of options.

The other con I would say is the perception of the breed coming from the womb as a fully trained dog. Goldens are easy to train and sometimes people new to the breed see a well-trained golden and think it "just came like that"; they don't see the hours of time, energy, and money that was put into making the dog that way. Which means a lot of young, rambuctious goldens get surrendered when their owners are surprised they aren't "perfect" and get tired of coming home to a under-stimulated, under-exercised dog and yet another pair of chewed up shoes.
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