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Old 05-11-2010, 04:46 PM
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Canidae All Life Stages for puppy?

We're going to start feeding our new boy Quinn Canidae All Life Stages (the regular stuff, not the grain-free stuff) as he runs out of the Costco food he came home with from the breeder. Has anybody fed the Canidae ALS to their pup? It's not specifically for puppies but says instead that it is good for pups, adults, seniors, etc. I guess natural foods typically don't make puppy-only foods. Quinn is 9 weeks old & we'll transition him slowly of course. Any input? Thanks in advance...
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:58 PM
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I wean my litters directly onto Canidae, and the pups have always done very well on it. The amounts on the bag are not always right-my last two pups went through a period where they were eating 6 cups a day and still not gaining weight However, they were extremely active and ran and wrestled all day long. Luckily, that period didn't last too long!

I like Canidae, have always liked it and have had very good results with it.

Be careful to wean your puppy on to the Canidae slowly, so as to not upset his tummy. I prefer to keep puppies on the breeders food for at least 3-4 weeks. This helps keep the stress on their tummy to minimum-they are already having to adjust to a new environment, a change in water, etc.
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I'm glad Tahnee has lots of direct experience with the food. I'm always nervous when the food isn't specifically formulated for fast growing puppies.
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I agree with Tahnee about keeping puppies on the same food that the breeder was feeding for a least a few weeks. The pup needs time to settle into a new environment and a brand new food can just be another stress on the pup's system. Also, don't wait until you run out of your current food before making the switch to Canidae. You'll need enough of the old food to mix in with the new food for at least a week or two. If you just make a sudden change to the new food without mixing it in with the old food, you pup will most likely develop GI upset, which isn't any fun for either you or the puppy.
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I found your old thread about canidae from last month. http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/...hlight=Canidae (Canidae good stuff?)

But for puppies, I know that some puppies here on the forum couldnt handle it and had terrible gas. So if you do go with the canidae make sure you do a very slow transition to the new food.
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Tally and Tango both grew up on Canidae ALS, and I have mixed feelings about the food. I think Innova Large Breed Puppy is a great choice as well and even Eukanuba Large Breed puppy, though it has its detractors here. Thje calcium/phosphorus ratios are pretty crucial. It's best of a food has been studied in live feeding trials as safe for growing pups.
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Thanks everyone. Sorry if I've been posting very similar questions as I zero-in on the best food for our new boy Quinn. We've just transitioned our 2-year old female Gracie over to Canidae All Life Stages Grain-Free from Blue Buffalo Large Breed food. We're also giving Gracie Cosequin as she continues to recover from her TPLO surgery 5 months ago. We've got a few weeks worth of the Costco food that the breeder sent home with Quinn so we can slowly transition him over to new stuff. He's 9-weeks old today. We like the idea of the all life stages stuff from Canidae & think it might be easier to transition Quinn over from the normal stuff to the grain-free stuff (of the same brand, Canidae) when he grows up. We've read that the grain free food is too high in protein for puppies. I used to like the idea of large breed food until I learned that the amount of supplements that are added to large breed food are just barely enough to call it "large breed food" & a supplement is typically much better to add to regular food. True? Is a supplement (vitamin/joint formula) a good idea for a pup? Any supplements for pups that anybody could recommend? Does it sound like we're on the right track? Thanks in advance...
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I used to like the idea of large breed food until I learned that the amount of supplements that are added to large breed food are just barely enough to call it "large breed food" & a supplement is typically much better to add to regular food. True? Is a supplement (vitamin/joint formula) a good idea for a pup? Any supplements for pups that anybody could recommend? Does it sound like we're on the right track? Thanks in advance...
What makes it a large breed puppy food is that it's usually less calorie-dense than regular puppy food and has a different balance of calcium and phosphorus to encourage slower growth.

I don't think you can hurt a pup with a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement. The biggest issue with a Golden pup is to keep the growth slow and appropriate so you don't get problems with bone curvature or panosteitis.
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What makes it a large breed puppy food is that it's usually less calorie-dense than regular puppy food and has a different balance of calcium and phosphorus to encourage slower growth.

I don't think you can hurt a pup with a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement. The biggest issue with a Golden pup is to keep the growth slow and appropriate so you don't get problems with bone curvature or panosteitis.
Then what about a food that says it's good for puppies, adults & seniors? Not specific enough for a large breed pup like a golden? Do goldens always need a large breed formula- as a pup & as an adult? Thank you...
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I feed the Canidae ALS to my pups, with no supplementation. Heck, I haven't even been supplementing my adults who are shown. I find that the Canidae works as a "slow grow" program for me-I rarely have to worry about chubby puppies, and they certainly have enough energy (and sometimes too much!)

The only supplement I give is to my (hopefully) pregnant girl, and she gets a Theragran M Multi-Vitamin during pregnancy and care of her litter.

There are a lot of good choices out there. I do tell my puppy buyers to use a large breed puppy food if they just can't handle feeding an ALS food to their puppy.
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