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Preventic collars and frontline together?

Okay, I bought the preventic collars for Annie and Bailey because of the huge population of the ticks, including deer ticks. I'm going to have both dogs vaccinated for lymes this year, but I wanted the collars now due to them going in the woods and it takes some time to get fully vaccinated.

Is it okay to use frontline plus with the collars? I do not want to double dose on the tick prevention, but I want the most protection I can get. I worry about lymes disease. My daughter got it when she was 5, but we caught it right away. I see deer ticks all the time, especially in the spring. Ticks creep me out. I have them crawling on me too, blah!
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I would call both companies and ask, as well as your vet.

Can I ask if the preventic collars are removable? I'm really tempted to get some to put on while we're out but to remove when we're in the house/yards. My dogs do a lot of wrestling/play biting/collar grabbing at each other and I don't want them mouthing these after hearing a few reports of that being very problematic with this product.
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I use both. I didn't think Frontline Plus helped against ticks (or if it does, it doesn't seem to work as with it Brooks has ticks).
By the way, I bought two Preventic collars last year, thinking if the tick season was long, I'd use two. It wasn't. So, when I went to get the collar out last week, I saw it was dated May 2010. I didn't realize they had a short "package life". I called the company and they said they are only good for 18 months after manufacture.
And I find them on myself too (maybe I should wear a collar!) I have had two actually latch onto me and once with a lone star tick I got sick.
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I would call both companies and ask, as well as your vet.

Can I ask if the preventic collars are removable? I'm really tempted to get some to put on while we're out but to remove when we're in the house/yards. My dogs do a lot of wrestling/play biting/collar grabbing at each other and I don't want them mouthing these after hearing a few reports of that being very problematic with this product.
Yes, they are removable. It is recommended to remove the collars when bathing and when it is raining. It's best they do not get wet. I bought mine on amazon.com and you cut them to size. I have the collars to where I can slip them off if I need to, same goes with their nylon collars as well.

My dogs mouth at the ears rather then their necks. The collars seem to stay under their nylon collars, so they are not exposed as much. I make sure the kids wash their hands after petting the dogs too.
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(maybe I should wear a collar!) I have had two actually latch onto me and once with a lone star tick I got sick.
I know, I wish we could wear them too. I don't know if we have lone star ticks here. We have plenty of deer and dog wood ticks.
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Hope Linda (Tahnee) chimes in because, as I remember, she says that many she knows use them both....... the collars just when out in the field. However, I'd want to hear from her on the accuracy of that. You might want to do a search on preventic collars.



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Hope Linda (Tahnee) chimes in because, as I remember, she says that many she knows use them both....... the collars just when out in the field. However, I'd want to hear from her on the accuracy of that. You might want to do a search on preventic collars.
It says on the package that the collars take 12 hours to work after applying. The collars last for 3 months according to the package.
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I have friends who use both, and have had great luck with them. My friend Lori uses Frontline and combines it with the Preventic collar. She trains on a schedule and can put the collars on several hours before they go out. She does not leave the collars on if the dogs are not being supervised, as they will try to use the collars to haul each other around.

Also, she spoke to a sales rep about using the collars and Frontline/Advantix together. He said it was fine, and very common in fact. But, he did tell her not to use the collars during or right after applying the spot on treatment. He said to wait until the spot on treatment had dried and dispersed before using a collaar. Apparently the oil in the collars will attract the spot on treatment, which will migrate to the collar instead of dispersing through the skin and hair follicles. If the spot on migrates to the collar, of course it means that your treatment was useless.

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Oh, and if I remember correctly, it takes 12 hours or something to spread through the entire body of the dog. Using the collars in conjunction with Frontline or Advantix means you don't have to wait that entire time. I'll check with Lori on that though. She's working on a TDX and is out in the woods and fields a LOT right now.

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I asked my vet that question just the other day, only I use Vectra 3D instead of Frontline Plus (the vets swear it's better). Here's his reply:

"....Sounds like overkill to me. The Vectra studies show it to be effective at t99% on day 30 after application. This drops to 95% if they have been shampooed (with a mild shampoo). The amitraz collar is a good one, but the only dogs I use that on is the dogs that are on Revolution (since it’s pretty sucky against ticks). I personally would be satisfied with the Vectra alone, I’m not one of those natural folk, you know that. However, I try not to use any more insecticides than I have to.
Should you decide to turn him into 3 Mile Island, call the company first to see if they have done any combination studies...."



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