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Old 04-23-2009, 10:38 AM
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Loss of control of body functions

We have posted a few time about Jasper and siezures. Now it seems she is unable to control her bladder and rectum. She is taking pheno barbitial and potassium bromide and is extremely dopey. She can barely walk and hardly responds to us anymore. Now the poop and pee on the floor has me wondering if it is the meds or if something else is going on. The worst is she is out of it she walks right through the mess and tracks around the house. She has always been very ashamed if she had an accident in the house and this morning didn't respond at all to a scolding. I am worried that we will have to make a hard decision soon.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:42 AM
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I am so sorry this is happening!!! It sounds like she may be over medicated or else it's neurological issues from the seizures.
Carol or someone who has experienced some of this will respond. Just know you are in my thoughts and prayers.
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I had that issue with Zeus towards the end. I think it was because of the iron and prednisone. I'm so sorry you are going through this. It's an awful situation.
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We have had a few rescue dogs that were on pheno barbitial and potassium bromide and it took some adjusting to get the dosage right.
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How old is she? And how long has she had her seizures?
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It could be the pheno level is too high. How many seizures has she had since on this level? If she has not had any seizures, I would discuss with your vet to reduce the amount. I say that because Beau was put on 3 1/2 pills twice a day and it was too high and he was wobbly, seemed out of it and just lethargic. Didnt have the potty problems but had alot of problems being able to stand up while pooping. My vet put him back down to 3 twice a day and it became alot better. I told my vet and also stated here that I almost would rather have the occasional seizure than to see him all doped up like that. He just didnt seem happy and was just existing. Now I have my boy smiling and now will lay on his bed playing with a tennis ball or toy.
I pray that it is all that is going on with your girl and you can have some good quality time left with her. My heart goes out to you, I know what you are going thru. Please give her a big hug from a Mom of a seizure dog.
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update: I've just come home for lunch to find my girl wagging her tail and giving me kisses and no accidents. Hopefully we are turning a corner. I agree I think her dose is too high. She was on 60mg in am and 90mg in evening of phenobarb when last seizure occured 3weeks ago. The next day the vet added the potassium bromide and increased pheno barb to 90mg am and pm. No seizures since. From what I understand the potassium takes at least a month to kick in so for right now only the phenobarb is controlling the seizures (none in three weeks, and we had be experiencing 1/week at lower pheno dose) My vet wants to wait and see until at least a month on potassuim bromide and then start making adjustments. One more week to wait and see. Thanks for all your support for Jasper.
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On that's such good news!
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I'm glad your sweetie is doing better. It's so hard to see them lethargic and having toileting accidents when you know they would never have done that if they were well. I hope she keeps improving!
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Time for the Vet. I think at a minimum the levels should be checked.

Dakota got really silly on an upped dose of Phenobarb the vet prescribed, and I had to back him down.

The lost of control during a seizure is, of course, normal.

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We have posted a few time about Jasper and siezures. Now it seems she is unable to control her bladder and rectum. She is taking pheno barbitial and potassium bromide and is extremely dopey. She can barely walk and hardly responds to us anymore. Now the poop and pee on the floor has me wondering if it is the meds or if something else is going on. The worst is she is out of it she walks right through the mess and tracks around the house. She has always been very ashamed if she had an accident in the house and this morning didn't respond at all to a scolding. I am worried that we will have to make a hard decision soon.
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