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Old 12-07-2008, 03:15 PM
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Are there two types of Goldens? A Field Golden and a _______________ Golden. What's the difference?

My Golden is light gold and has short hair. She is 10 months old. My daughter's Golden is 5 years old. He is a much deeper Gold but not red. He has thick long hair with beautiful leg feathers and tail. I don't know when or if Ginger will have long hair. The fluff around her neck is broken off by the prong/pinch collar. I have been trying not to use it but I can't control her without it. She is just too strong for me.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:26 PM
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Field and often called Confirmation - with the latter being the more fuller.
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Personally..just from the forum and what I experience.... I think there are three types of Goldens though it isn't cookie cutter. The conformation golden, the Field Golden and the backyard bred Golden. Lucky is the latter.

My son is into field and hunting....and the Goldens he works with are on the smaller side, dark and hell on wheels with field events. Those dogs don't look anything like a classic conformation Golden and they have the drive and focus needed in the hunt. They may differ from the "standard" because what the dog does is more of a priority to many of these breeders rather then what the looks like.

Lucky, a byb Golden is larger and may have field golden features (a more trianglar head and less coat) he doesn't have the genetics or drive to do well with hunting. He was bred with no purpose in mind other then be a Golden Retriever.

Conformation Goldens have longer coats, specific structure and must meet a strict standard. The goal for many breeders is to create a Golden with the charactoristics for the field but the ability to acheive conformation championships..

So far...this is how I see it....
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Are there two types of Goldens? A Field Golden and a _______________ Golden. What's the difference?

My Golden is light gold and has short hair. She is 10 months old. My daughter's Golden is 5 years old. He is a much deeper Gold but not red. He has thick long hair with beautiful leg feathers and tail. I don't know when or if Ginger will have long hair. The fluff around her neck is broken off by the prong/pinch collar. I have been trying not to use it but I can't control her without it. She is just too strong for me.
The ideal Golden is strong in the field and has excellent conformation. There aren't really two kinds, but there are breeders who prioritize one over the other, so you see some divergence.

And on the prong collar: maybe you could go to class together so you and she could learn how to guide her to walk politely on the leash? So you're not in a wrestling match at all? If it's ripping out the hair on her neck, it's probably hurting her pretty badly.
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There is a show coat and a field coat. The field coat is nice when they get muddy because within thirty minutes of drying you cannot tell they were ever muddy, also the field coat does not matt near as easily but the show coats are beautiful, I love and have both!! Also your Golden is only 10 mths old so through maturing the coat is going to change more.
I instruct obedience classes and I would reccommnd to you the easy walker halter, do not confuse with other halters, they are not the same and this is not one over the nose it is a halter that fastens on the chest(not on the top)it works wonderfully, if you like I can send a pic.
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Are there two types of Goldens? A Field Golden and a _______________ Golden. What's the difference?
There is only one "type" of Goldens but there are different "styles". When folks refer to a "field" Golden they are normally referring to a style of Golden that is smaller, thinner boned and less coated.

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My Golden is light gold and has short hair. She is 10 months old. My daughter's Golden is 5 years old. He is a much deeper Gold but not red. He has thick long hair with beautiful leg feathers and tail. I don't know when or if Ginger will have long hair.
The best way to determine this is to look at the pup's parents. Are they heavy coated dogs? If not then chances are yours will not be either. If they are then I would ask the breeder when you might expect the pup to start to mature.

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The fluff around her neck is broken off by the prong/pinch collar. I have been trying not to use it but I can't control her without it. She is just too strong for me.
I too would recommend a basic obedience class to show you how to control the dog without a prong. The other suggestion would be to try a "no pull" harness. It will do less damage to the coat and give you the same control as a prong. Just make sure it is a "no pull" harness and not a standard harness.
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Also, they might be attaining different kinds of titles. Field dogs might be focusing on hunt test titles and working certificates (Jh,Sh,MH,WC, WCX)that come after their names and test their retrieving skills and athletic powers. Dogs that run field trials are competing against labs, Chessies tollers etc, and really have to be tough, agile, fast and full of intense, intense motivation. Conformation dogs might be concentrating on titles like CH that come before their names and signify their embodiment of the standard. There is a separate Field Dog Hall of Fame and a Show Dog Hall of Fame. (The field champion title does come before the name, and some dogs excel at both.) There is also obedience, agility, tracking- versatility dog- lots of overlaps and venues for goldens to excel. Goldens who can do both are glorious in my mind and up on my personal pedestal.

In common parlance, when people just throw the terms around casually/carelessly/in a carefree manner, a field golden is an athletic, high energy dog whose priorities include a deep passion for retrieving, and a lighter, smaller build with wash and wear red coats and pointier noses; a Show/Conformation dog is a taller, bigger more "done" golden with a flowing coat, pantaloons, and tail, a broader head with a good stop between forehead and muzzle, and more bone.

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We rescued our Smooch from Golden Retriever Rescue and I've had people comment that she is a Field Golden. She has wavey hair!
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Field and often called Confirmation - with the latter being the more fuller.
Conformation - or "breed" dogs...
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I found the cheaper prong collars break off there fur, they also make covers for the prongs. I have used them on all my dogs and never had that problem. Here is Maggie (field) age 3. And Hootie age 3.

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