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Negativity surrounding purchasing from breeder

Hello all,

A couple of weeks ago, we purchased a golden puppy from a responsible breeder in Wisconsin. We are so happy with her, and things are going really well.

I've received a lot of backlash from people because we purchased from a breeder. I actually had someone just tell me that we essentially killed a shelter dog because we purchased rather than rescued. I had no idea how to respond to that. Have any of you ever received similar rhetoric, and if so, do you constantly feel the need to explain your decision to purchase?
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I have not had this happen, but I firmly believe that dogs are in shelters because people get puppies and do not keep them , for whatever reason, not because you have chosen to buy from a breeder.
Any animal that comes into my home stays until his last day .
There are many great dogs in shelters waiting for homes, and thankfully many of them do end up in good homes, but the choice should be yours.

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Sorry this has happened to you. There is a lot of that rhetoric out there. Those that have been on the bull horn about animal rights have been working on this "crap" for over twenty years and many of the general public have drunk the koolaide. Those that believe this won't hear anything you have to say that doesn't fit their "truth". Just enjoy your pup. You will find more like minded people, those that believe we should find the dog that fits our needs whether it be purchased from a breeder, shelter or rescue in the breed clubs. Go to classes that eventually gear toward competition in the higher classes and you should find more support.


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One of my coworkers was extremely disappointed about my decision but she was polite enough about it. I actively looked into rescuing a golden for three months (the two I was close to getting were placed in other homes that had more experience with the dogs issues such as anxiety and biting people).

I felt terribly guilty about getting a puppy and didn't even want to tell anyone that I was using a breeder. But I'm very happy with my choice now as I am the one that is going to be dedicating my life and money into raising my baby and I should be free to choose what is the best for me. A rescue dog is basically what I thought you "had" to do to be a good person.
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This is one of my pet peeves ... pardon the pun. If someone chooses to adopt a rescue dog then they should do it. It should be a personal decision. Being bullied into adopting a rescue dog as opposed to doing research to get the healthiest dog possible is just plain wrong, and these people make me so angry. I just say to them "I guess you are a better person than I am because I want to know everything there is to know about a dog I'm bringing into the family ... especially his health history." I do not feel guilty for a nano second. Can you imagine if someone made you feel guilty for having a baby of your own as opposed to adopting an orphan from a foreign country? I'm glad there are people out there that take these dogs in. I just can't be one of them.

Who is the breeder? Just curious because I'm from Wisconsin and I still live there in the summer.
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Oh good grief. Who are these people to think they have the right to question your desire to know what you are getting history wise, health wise, socialization wise. There is zero to feel guilty about. Dogs are in shelters because they did NOT have a good breeder at their conception, who would always take the dog back even years later should the need arise. When you buy from a good breeder, you are also buying an insurance policy that your dog will have a home forever even if it's not with you! And to have the audacity to think their uneducated opinion is valued, well, find new buddies who understand you made a choice to buy a known rather than take a chance on an unknown.

If all puppies were brought to this earth by good breeders, there would be no shelters. And you have the right to buy a puppy whose eventual looks and behavior are pretty predictable. You are not criticized for choosing one brand of clothes instead of another why should you not buy the dog you want?
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Most of the dogs I have had over the last 40 years have been rescues (and believe me that has been many dogs as I generally have 3 dogs at a time) and we got some rather nasty comments when we got Bailey. I generally bit my tongue and told them that yes, I knew that there were dogs in sheltees who were looking for homes since I volunteered at a shelter and have 2 rescues currently living in my home. I told them that in spite of that I still believe that the dog that I (or anyone else) brings into their home is a highly personal choice and that I would never attempt to make anyone feel badly about the dog that they had adopted be it a purebred dog from a breeder or a shelter dog who arrived in a person's home with more issues than the New York Times (people who know me know about my dog Jack and his story). Then I would go into my statistics about the number of dogs that we sterilize at the shelter and the number of unwanted puppies that can result...and I watch their eyes glaze over before they quickly change the subject.
Enjoy your puppy. There will always be people who find fault with a breeder purchased dog just as there will always be people who will find fault with a rescued dog with issues ("He should have been put to sleep! Look at all the money his is costing you!"). My advice would be to figure out a snappy comeback to the comments and let them go. When strangers have made nasty comments I generally use my favorite old line with them, "I will forgive the rudeness of your comment if you will forgive my rudeness in not responding to it." Works wonders.

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Yes this happens a lot. First things first, evaluate your relationship to the person. If you don't have one or don't care to, just don't respond. Their opinion should have no weight with you so don't let it bother you.

If you do care, here are some of my GO TOs...

Rescue saves the future of one dog. Buying from a responsible breeder saves the future of a breed. I support both and when you add a new pet, I'll support your choice.

I needed some very predictable traits in my companion. A purebred dog was my best option and only 5% of shelter dogs are purbred and 2% of those are pitbulls or Chihuahuas. So, I chose to support a responsible breeder who stands behind our dog for its lifetime.

My purchasing a puppy did not steal a shelter dogs chance. I would be dogless before I would choose a dog like a pit mix or chihuahua that would not be a good fit for my family.

Breeders don't put dogs in shelters, owners do. People who die, move, or families who see pets as toys do. I am committed to my dog and it will never end up in a shelter.

It is my pet and my choice. I am sorry I disappointed you but my views on this are different than yours and I chose to support responsible breeding. I respect your beliefs and your right to them. I hope you will extend the same courtesy to me.

I agree there are pets waiting in shelters for great homes. I was not willing to go that route but I would love to see shelter stop importing pets from other countries because there are not enough pets in shelters to meet the demand.

I just choose based on the relationship which would work best. You are free to use any you would like.


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I actually see this as a political thing. I don't want to get into politics too much because that's not what this forum is for, but I see the whole "rescue dog" thing similar to issues like illegal immigration, refugees, etc. If you don't agree with all of those things you are looked upon as heartless. I see it as practical, but that's just me. We should be entitled to our opinion and our choices without being bullied. In the end, no one can make you feel ashamed or guilty unless you allow them to.
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I agree with all the posts here and that's why I eventually was able to shed the unnecessary guilt I was holding onto (that came from other peony). I want a predictable breed and a history I know as I want the best integration possible with my existing family (two kitties!). And of course the health history of my dog is so vital with this breed.

It is YOUR life, money, and time. I realized this is going to be a huge commitment and I shouldn't be guilted into choose a less than optimal route of dog ownership because some people feel the need to pass judgment.

My biggest judgment comes from my in laws who aren't anti-breeder but anti-dog. They have never had dogs and never really been around dogs and they hold some huge misconceptions about dog behavior (including the old school training methods). Their idea of good dog ownership is keeping your dog outside in your yard all day when you are gone, unsupervised so he gets "exercise". My yard is good size but they say it's not big enough to do that. Huge misconceptions! That's no way to train a dog or exercise a dog.

I'd have less resistance in life if I said I was having a baby (I'm 32 and choosing to remain childless in my life). The judgment I get about the impossibility of raising a puppy is baffling. It's at the point I don't even feel comfortable sharing my excitement of my journey of getting my boy on Facebook because of their judgment.
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