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Hi there everyone! I'm new here, and I joined because I wanted to speak with others who had golden experience. My golden retriever, Leia, is 5 years old and not spayed. We left out of town for 3 weeks on a family vacation and she stayed with my parents, who have a couple Goldens of their own. During that time period, she apparently went into heat and we had not known. My parents, not paying much attention left her with their Goldens for extended periods of time. I am having a feeling she may be pregnant. She is AKC registered. UTD on everything and has been health tested in general just for my own piece of mind a few years ago since large dogs have a tendency for hip dysplasia and what not. I took her to the vet, but on the xray it didn't show anythin. Although the vet said timing just may be off. She is growing larger, has produced some milk and is overall displaying many signs, but I know false pregnancies happen. This occurred at the end of december, start of january. A recent picture (3 days ago) is attached.

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She is a cutie. I am no expert but it does look like she is pregneant. If this happened when you think it won't be long for the babies to be born. At least it was with a golden so they will be purebred. Have you had a her ultrasound?

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Man, I'm so sorry to hear this. Best thing right now - find a good repro vet and get her evaluated again, and if you don't have experience whelping a litter, contact your nearest Golden Retriever club and see if there is someone who can help you. There is a lot you will need to know and be prepared for. I have no experience with it, but there are some amazing breeders here who have helped people in your situation. I'm sure they will offer some good advice.

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So what are your dates?
Vacation left, vacation returned, how long was she bleeding or swollen after you returned?


You can assume I hope that she was not in season when you left her, so figure day one may have been the day after
you left. Count out maybe 10 days, and assume that she was ovulating that day. Count out 63 days from that day, and assume that's your very first possible due date.

She looks further along (if she is a maiden) than U/S would be able to help so plan to X-ray her at about 58 days from ovulation day. Hopefully your vet can age them at that point. If not, post the photo of the radiograph here and someone will try for you.
Of course you know that the furthest out day would be determined by the day you returned.

Do the same thing date wise with those dates and hopefully the second date (and it should) will be after 45 days gestation so that that will be telling as well on the radiograph. They've already been exposed once to radiation so I don't think you should do it more than one more time. And that's only if you really want to be able to leave your house during the 2 weeks you are going to be stuck there watching her.

When her temp drops (rectal) below 99 you have about 24 hours.
Get a wading pool and a pack of cheap washcloths, a couple pair of hemostats, lots of old towels and a flashlight because when she's in labor you will want to take a pair of hemostats and a washcloth with you when you go out potty. Bitches have popped them out in the yard.
Go watch some you tubes on whelping, lots of them so you will feel ok about the eventuality.
And spay her after.
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Where are you located? I may know someone who'd whelp her for you.

Another thing- if you are not going to spay her, you need to get hips/elbows as soon as after the litter that you can, and do her cardiac and eyes as well.
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Where are you located? I may know someone who'd whelp her for you.

Another thing- if you are not going to spay her, you need to get hips/elbows as soon as after the litter that you can, and do her cardiac and eyes as well.
I'm so glad to see there are breeders who help folks in this situation. I would absolutely freak out if I found myself in this predicament. I've never even seen a newborn puppy and wouldn't know the first thing about helping a bitch whelp. Once the puppies arrived, I'd be totally lost as to their care.

This is why I'm so very careful (bordering on neurotic) about my bitches until they turn 2 and I can spay them. No litters for me! Ever. I leave that stuff to the pros.


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If both dogs that your parents own are unneutered males, you won't know which is the father of which puppy without doing DNA through the AKC. Of course, that will only matter if you want to register the litter. Plus, if there is any chance she was exposed to other intact males during that time, those males could also be the father of some of the puppies.

There are some FB groups that could be very helpful, if she is pregnant.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Cani...?ref=bookmarks

Myra Savant Harris is a member of this ^^^ group. Her book on whelping and neonatal care got me through many whelpings, back before the Internet.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Cani...?ref=bookmarks

Good luck. You've gotten some great suggestions here.

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Her temp just dropped to 97.5 when I checked it just now
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Congratulations - it sounds like you are about to have puppies at your house! I don't know if this any help for you, but I found this information knowledgeable and easy to follow
Stages Of Canine Labor - When Your Dog Gives Birth
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Her temp just dropped to 97.5 when I checked it just now
If the vet didn't see anything on radiographs yet her temp dropped that makes no sense.
That's assuming you got the rads done recently. Could you post your timeline dates? Puppies start calcifying in the 43+ day range, and they can be counted pretty accurately after 55+ days on radiographs. But they CAN be seen mid-40s days. Could you post the radiograph?

Is she due right now per the dates?

If not, you didn't leave the thermometer in long enough lol.
Dogs normal rectal temps are around 102

The temperature doesn't drop on a false pregnancy, because there are no corpus luteums to stop working (producing progesterone) and no placentas to start detaching.
You'll want to check temps at least twice a day at the same time approx.

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