Getting a dog to release something in his mouth. - Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-21-2008, 07:05 PM Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Getting a dog to release something in his mouth.

I was watching Ceaser Millan, and he had something on there about how to get a dog to drop something from his mouth.. They put there hand some where on top of jaw..and the dog instantly opened his mouth.. My problem is.. I did not catch it til it was too late.. and I do not know where exactly he had his hand. I would LOVE to learn this..Would anyone happen to know how to do that? Many thanks for anyone that can help!
Ginni is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-21-2008, 07:08 PM
Humankind. Be both.
 
FlyingQuizini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 7,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks: 66
Thanked 729 Times in 327 Posts
Why not teach the dog to *want* to let go on cue rather than physically doing something to get the dog's mouth to open?

Cookie on the nose almost always get a dog to open his mouth. Pair it with the word "give" and over time, delay the presentation of the cookie until the dog understands the word.

"Saber" (Golden Retriever) Born 5/12/12, Adopted April 2014.
Wordsmith's Winsome Warrior
No titles (I'm too lazy now!), but an awesome hiking partner!

"Quiz" (Golden Retriever) 12/31/03 - 3/20/13
U-CD Tanbark's Number Two Pencil, JH, CDX, Can-CD, AX, AXJ, OF, RS-E, JS-E, GS-E, WCDex.
I loved being this dog's partner! Watch him shine!

"Zoie" (Whippet) 9/8/00 - 3/28/14
Donmar-Valair Second Wind, CD, RE, MC, ASCA-CD, Th.D.
#1 AKC Obedience Whippet for 2004 / AKC and ASFA FCH Pointed
FlyingQuizini is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Preeminent Member
 
missmarstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 12,808
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 328
Thanked 1,057 Times in 485 Posts
agree with stephanie here, i like the positive reinforcement methods definitely
missmarstar is offline  
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-21-2008, 08:51 PM
<---Bring on the grub!!!!
 
gold'nchocolate's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Grafton ,Massachusetts USA
Posts: 3,739
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
I'm in agreement with Stephanie and Marlene. Those positive methods work best in the long run.

I did see that episode but I also missed what he was doing. I used to blow on Biscuit's (Jaws of Steel) nose sometimes if he had a mitten or sock because he would swallow them.

Cathy
Sasha & Hershey (at the bridge) *** Vanilla 5 yrs***Jack 5 yrs***Biscuit 4 yrs***Nash 3 yrs***Sasha #2~~3 yrs

gold'nchocolate is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-21-2008, 08:55 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South central Michigan
Posts: 1,869
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sorry but I agree with everyone else. We trade for a treat.
Penny'smom is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-22-2008, 12:36 AM
Social Therapy Dog
 
AmbersDad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 613
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Images: 66
Thanks: 5
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
While I agree with training the pup to drop or "give" on command, which we've worked hard on ourselves, there ARE times when/if they have something in their mouth that's extremely hazardous or dangerous to them that requires you to get it out at that very moment, so something as the new poster asked about would come in handy. When i say dangerous, think -Needle,toxic cleaner,medication,glass item...etc While Ambers "give" and "drop" commands are getting better, all too often she still wants to play the "catch me if you can" game before she gives it up. She just LOVES to grab an item she knows she is not allowed to have (tissues,toilet paper, sock, glove) and then take off running only AFTER she has stepped directly into our line of site to be 100% sure we know she has something she is not allowed to have. Trying to ignore this behavior works but it's also extremely tough for us even when she only has tissue paper or a paper product of some kind.
Phil & Amber
BTW: Ginni, welcome to the site! Hope you don't take the somewhat negative responses badly, alot of users just have very strong opinions about certain issues is all, no harm meant. There's a GREAT group of folks here with a wealth of information and help available so hope to see you around more.

Phil & Amber, CGC
You'd smile too if you were a Golden!
AmbersDad is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-22-2008, 01:42 AM
Old Guy
 
monomer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northern, mid-western, lower Peninsula of Michigan... and then go just a tad to the left
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Images: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 46 Times in 10 Posts
Ginni, I personally didn't catch the episode you're referring to... which is amazing since I do watch all his shows... that one must have slipped past me. Though I have used the "trade-up" routine with some successes, I must admit it doesn't always work for a number of reasons. I personally don't have any problem with forcing a dog's mouth open and have had to do it on many dogs for various reasons. What I do is curl a portion of the upper lip under the dog's big upper molar (the 4th upper premolar called the 'carnassial') and just lift up with a single finger increasing pressure on the lip against the pointy part of that molar... the dog will then decide how badly he wants to keep biting down and at the point where he feels the pain on his lip isn't really worth it he will simply decide to open his mouth thus relieving the pressure on his own. Its important to realize that with this method the dog has complete control over this transaction and so it isn't cruel to do this in any way. It works quite well and if you pair this action with a word such as "release" eventually, if you are truly consistent, over time your dog will simply drop whatever s/he has in his/her mouth upon hearing the word "release"... the dog will not be left traumatized or any worse for the experience.

Last edited by monomer; 03-22-2008 at 02:39 AM.
monomer is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-22-2008, 01:47 AM
Daisy's Mom
 
kellange123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Dakota, USA
Posts: 474
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Images: 60
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You have to teach the "drop it" command with things you do not mind having in his/her mouth before you can teach them to drop things that you don't want them to have. When I was teaching the "drop it" I would squeeze behind where Daisy's teeth end, which got her to open her mouth. Now since she knows the comand and that she will get good things from it, treat, praise or toy she does it for about anything. Today she proudly found a dead frozen rabbit she was bringing up to the house and I yelled "drop it" to her, as she was far away, and she dropped it and came running like nothing happend.

kellange123 is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-22-2008, 02:35 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 26
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have the episode taped but have not had a chance to watch it yet. Will post when I can watch it which won't be til monday or tuesday.
DreamsOfGold is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-22-2008, 04:14 AM
Senior Member
 
MisterBailey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 648
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Images: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I remember that episode. Monomer described how to do it pretty well. I'll admit I've used it at times when Bailey forgets what "drop it" means and won't even drop it for a treat. I don't want him to swallow something bad for him, so I open his mouth that way, too.

The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too. ~Samuel Butler
MisterBailey is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome