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Getting a dog to release something in his mouth.

I was watching Ceaser Millan, and he had something on there about how to get a dog to drop something from his mouth.. They put there hand some where on top of jaw..and the dog instantly opened his mouth.. My problem is.. I did not catch it til it was too late.. and I do not know where exactly he had his hand. I would LOVE to learn this..Would anyone happen to know how to do that? Many thanks for anyone that can help!
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Why not teach the dog to *want* to let go on cue rather than physically doing something to get the dog's mouth to open?

Cookie on the nose almost always get a dog to open his mouth. Pair it with the word "give" and over time, delay the presentation of the cookie until the dog understands the word.

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agree with stephanie here, i like the positive reinforcement methods definitely
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I'm in agreement with Stephanie and Marlene. Those positive methods work best in the long run.

I did see that episode but I also missed what he was doing. I used to blow on Biscuit's (Jaws of Steel) nose sometimes if he had a mitten or sock because he would swallow them.

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Sorry but I agree with everyone else. We trade for a treat.
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While I agree with training the pup to drop or "give" on command, which we've worked hard on ourselves, there ARE times when/if they have something in their mouth that's extremely hazardous or dangerous to them that requires you to get it out at that very moment, so something as the new poster asked about would come in handy. When i say dangerous, think -Needle,toxic cleaner,medication,glass item...etc While Ambers "give" and "drop" commands are getting better, all too often she still wants to play the "catch me if you can" game before she gives it up. She just LOVES to grab an item she knows she is not allowed to have (tissues,toilet paper, sock, glove) and then take off running only AFTER she has stepped directly into our line of site to be 100% sure we know she has something she is not allowed to have. Trying to ignore this behavior works but it's also extremely tough for us even when she only has tissue paper or a paper product of some kind.
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Ginni, I personally didn't catch the episode you're referring to... which is amazing since I do watch all his shows... that one must have slipped past me. Though I have used the "trade-up" routine with some successes, I must admit it doesn't always work for a number of reasons. I personally don't have any problem with forcing a dog's mouth open and have had to do it on many dogs for various reasons. What I do is curl a portion of the upper lip under the dog's big upper molar (the 4th upper premolar called the 'carnassial') and just lift up with a single finger increasing pressure on the lip against the pointy part of that molar... the dog will then decide how badly he wants to keep biting down and at the point where he feels the pain on his lip isn't really worth it he will simply decide to open his mouth thus relieving the pressure on his own. Its important to realize that with this method the dog has complete control over this transaction and so it isn't cruel to do this in any way. It works quite well and if you pair this action with a word such as "release" eventually, if you are truly consistent, over time your dog will simply drop whatever s/he has in his/her mouth upon hearing the word "release"... the dog will not be left traumatized or any worse for the experience.

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You have to teach the "drop it" command with things you do not mind having in his/her mouth before you can teach them to drop things that you don't want them to have. When I was teaching the "drop it" I would squeeze behind where Daisy's teeth end, which got her to open her mouth. Now since she knows the comand and that she will get good things from it, treat, praise or toy she does it for about anything. Today she proudly found a dead frozen rabbit she was bringing up to the house and I yelled "drop it" to her, as she was far away, and she dropped it and came running like nothing happend.

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I have the episode taped but have not had a chance to watch it yet. Will post when I can watch it which won't be til monday or tuesday.
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I remember that episode. Monomer described how to do it pretty well. I'll admit I've used it at times when Bailey forgets what "drop it" means and won't even drop it for a treat. I don't want him to swallow something bad for him, so I open his mouth that way, too.

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