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We have a big problem Bae Lee and Keeper

Just to remind everyone, we rescued our brothers from a home that they were 100% outdoors in the elements with little contact with owners and probably little attention. We have noticed that if one was on the couch with us or we were loving one, that they would growl low, but never anything serious. Then they would lick each other's faces. Never last longer than a minute.

So today, I'm working and am sitting on the couch. Keeper gets up on the couch beside me and puts his head on my lap. I'm petting him and Bae Lee gets up from the other side of the room and presses up against me for love too. Keeper starts growling like he does some times low. Bae Lee keeps pressing toward me. Keeper jumps down and gowls really loud sneering and the next thing I know they are both up on their hind legs only, really going after each other. Bae Lee (still both on hind legs only) pushes Keeper into the TV and almost knocks it (heavy 42" old tv) onto the floor. I had been trying to seperate them but almost got bit myself.

I screamed at them at the top of my lungs NO and pushed Bae Lee back. Then they start licking each others faces. I'm in shock. Have never seen anything like this before. Then I notice that Keeper has a 1/2" gas about 1/2" below his right eye that is bleeding. They are now licking each others face and wagging their tails.

Just got back from the vet. She gave us ointment and instructions to keep Keeper from scratching it. She also put him on an antibiotic to be safe. How do we keep this from happening again? They can't stand to be away from each other, but don't want this to happen again! How can we prevent this again.

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I have had issues with two male littermates, I wouldn't let them on the furniture. And I would start with NILIF, they need to earn everything. The quicker you can correct this, the better. I am sorry you're going through this.


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I would set them up and really correct them if they ever so much as give the other a mean look. Never let it build to the point where they go after each other. Correct even before the first growl.

Being on the furniture or whatever has nothing to do with this. This is bad manners and turfing over you.

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Wow what a scary ordeal! I would be very tempted to consult with a reputable behaviorist who can help you pin point exactly where this behavior is coming from. It seems that both of these boys LOVE you more than anything and you are now their most valuable resource, one that must be guarded. I'm sure they can be taught otherwise... I'm very optimistic that this is just a small snag, best of luck to you xox

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I agree about not letting them on the furniture, at least until you get control of the situation. It'd probably be best to call a professional trainer. I don't think this is that serious, so probably just a few sessions would do. Make sure when one of them show any signs correct it, don't let anything slide. Be firm and let them know it's NOT okay.

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I wish I had some advice . . . but I don't. Dog fights are scary. My first golden got in a fight and I ended up in ER with stitches. So these are two males? Are they neutered, mine wasn't and I don't think the other golden was either. I hope you get some advice.

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We have a big problem Bae Lee and Keeper

Wow I'm sorry you had to go through that. It must of been really scary. I would get a professional to come in it prob has something to do with jealousy issues but I'm no expert at all that's just my opinion


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It seems like they now have a taste of the good life and just don't know how to handle how sweet it is. They have never needed to share attention because they received so little. I know you will get great feedback here and you will work it out. My humble opinion is to stay calm, no matter what.

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I wish I had some advice . . . but I don't. Dog fights are scary. My first golden got in a fight and I ended up in ER with stitches. So these are two males? Are they neutered, mine wasn't and I don't think the other golden was either. I hope you get some advice.
Yes they are 2 neutered males.

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Thanks so much for your help!! We know that this is just a bump in the road, but need to get control over it before someone gets really hurt. It could easily have been an eye and not below the eye. What scared me, was that it hasn't been threatening before and it came out of nowhere! We have immediately stopped letting either of them on the couch and will not allow them on the bed.

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