I have a thread running on the new member of our family, who joined us a few hours ago ...our almost eight months old Gordon Setter, who we have renamed Roshaan (Row Sharn). Starting this new thread to ask a question re his peeing. He has peed outdoors once & his breeder told us he had never peed in his crate. However, about an hour ago, he got up from the chewstick he was enjoying, walked a few feet across the lounge & then laid down again on his tummy, looking at Loki, who was about three feet away, laying on his side. He stayed like that for a few seconds, stretched out on his tummy, then abruptly got up .....& I saw a large pool of pee on the rug beneath him & his tummy was all wet. I have never seen a dog pee laying on its tummy, so the only conclusion I can come to is that he has been kept for loooooong periods in his crate & has learnt how to pee laying down, as he is a very tall boy .....really long legs & I had remarked earlier to my DH that I had no idea how the breeder got him into a crate, as we have a crate which is one size down from the largest, for Loki, & Roshaan would not even be able to stand upright in it, & would be too long for it. So we are going to whisk him outside for toileting as soon as he wakes up, just as we had to do with Loki when he was a little pup ...back to basics.

I feel so sorry for your new boy. I have seen submissive peeing, but usually the dog is at a sit or else it is when they are excited and crouched down, but moving. To just lay and tinkle makes me wonder if you are right in thinking he may have been crated too long and learned to do this in his crate. This is so sad if true because this means his tummy and chest would have had urine on it at times and that is not only stinky but not healthy.

It could also be an infection and if he has not been to the Vet since you got him, you might take him and have this checked out.

But yes, sounds like it may be good to start as if he was a tiny pup and give him Lots of out of crate time. Loki may really be a help in this as the boys can run and play together and hopefully Loki will teach him that when he needs to potty, a cry to tell you he needs to go out is ok. I have never had a gordon, but we had a hound dog for over 12 yrs and she was a hard one to housebreak, but we did it. Think it is because most hounds do not live in the house. She took much longer, but once learned she was so good.

Good luck and keep us informed.

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If he had been sleeping or laying down relaxing it's possible he just needed to go and his muscles relaxed.

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It's 6.30am on Day Two ...we haven't had to be up this early for some time, & not a lot of sleep ...but that is another story & will tell it in the other thread I have going. No more pees in the house so far. Everytime he has got up after being settled for a time, we have rushed all three dogs out the back door. Loki will go pee as soon as he gets out. Roshaan tends to lope about the garden, so hard to see if/when he does a pee. But yesterday, he did a bit of bounding & then saw Loki squatting down peeing & went over to within a couple of feet of him, squatted down & peed, so we gave lots of praise to both boys. I thought we would get up to a room awash with pee & possibly poop, as he is a very heavy drinker. Happily that was not the case with Roshaan, but Loki Had peed in his ex pen ...he has not done that for a long time, but am guessing he drank a lot more water than usual, stress-related, I imagine. So we now know Roshaan can go overnight without peeing in the room he is sleeping in.

Sounds like things are going along well! We need more pictures of your boys!

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Unfortunately there's been a bad update to this. She had to give Roshaan back to the breeder, who lied to her and could have cost Loki his life

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Oh my gosh! What happened????

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I'm in shock right now! Please update I hope all is well after what Joyce said I can't help but wonder what happened

Hope you all are well


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Here's her other thread explaining what happened

http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/...ther-dogs.html (Introducing older puppy to other dogs?)

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