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Old 12-28-2012, 02:49 PM
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Introducing older puppy to other dogs?

We are picking up our beautiful Gordon Setter this morning. He is coming up to eight months old & our GR pup is just over five months old ...our papillon is over six years old. As anyone who has read a couple of my recent postings will know, the two puppies have met up about three weeks ago, at the home of the breeder. They romped about together for about twenty mins & had a great time. I was hoping to take Loki with us this morning, so that the two boys could have another play together, before bringing them both home. However, it is raining today, so we have decided that would not be a good idea. We will now do the 45-50 min drive over there on our own, leaving Loki at home with Jontay & the cats. As we have never brought an older puppy into our home before, we were wondering how best to go about it. We are planning to put the two pups into the exercise pen to sleep together right from the first night (this is where Loki has been sleeping very successfully for the past four nights). He has had his crate in there, but with the door open, so that he has the extra room of the ex pen. My DH has just taken the crate down, so that the two boys will each have a bed in the ex pen. We are hoping this will be a good arrangement for sleeping & there will be chew sticks & cuddle toys in with them. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Also, I am planning to feed them separately initially, as the Gordon is on Royal Canin & Loki is on Proplan, so will take a while to switch the Gordon over. The Gordon is on two feeds daily, but Loki still on three. I don't want to cause any food guarding issues between the two by feeding them in same room during this settling in period. Any thoughts on how to go about this, would be appreciated. Both of these guys seemed to get on well together when they met three weeks ago.
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Honestly, I would not enclose two dogs together in a small space right unless they know each other really well and have proven they go along. I think that each pup should have his own area for sleeping. I would let Loki sleep where he is used to in his exercise pen and crate the Gordon pup (do you have a name for him) separately, perhaps even in another room at first. I know this will not be the first time they meet but if you could walk them together a bit before bringing them into the house and yard, it might help. If not, the introductions would be done in the yard, not in the house. Might Jontay go with you all for a block stroll ? She has never met Gordon, right ? Make sure you give her a way to be away from two rambuctious pups if she wants to (baby gates and short leashes might be very useful). No advice about the cats except to give them escape routes.

As strongly as I feel about separate sleeping quarters, I do not feel the same way about feeding stations. Assuming they eat at about the same rate, I would put Gordon back on three meals so he gets food when Loki gets food, separate their bowls by a good 10 feet, and stand in between while they are eating. What are the arrangements for feeding with Loki and Jontay ?
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I agree, I would not put them together to sleep. As much as Ky loves Bentley she does not let him lay next to her...ever. He really wants to but she wont allow it so I don't push it. They both have their own beds now that Bentley sleeps out of the crate.

I would also introduce them again off your property before going into the house. This worked well for us.

Good luck, I'm looking forward to more pics!
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I agree - sleeping should be separate for now. Its a big step, don't push them together and overdo it. I would let them sleep and be calm separately until they know each other better. But feeding I think would be okay to do near each other, like on opposite sides of the room or something as has been suggested.
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Sleeping arrangement should be separate. My yorkies adore Buddy but will not share a bed with him. I would do separate X-pens with a common wall so they can sleep next to each other it they want but don't have too. This would also give you a way to feed them both separately.

It took me several weeks before I would trust Buddy with them alone. Cozy, mama yorkie, was quick to put him in his place and still corrects him when he is too full of himself.
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I have to agree with what the others said about sleeping together. If they choose this on their own, ok, but I wouldn't push it from the get go. Is the Gordon crate trained? Being that he is new and all, I would crate him, personally until I knew he could be trusted out on his own. As for feeding...I have not had an issue with it.. They get fed at the same time and honestly they keep trading bowls. Wish they wouldn't but even standing there and redirecting over and over and over again they go back and forth...it really is kind of cute. I asked the vet and he said as long as Sage doesn't have tummy issues getting some Fromms with her LBP food will not hurt her...
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We've been home for around half an hour & everything between Loki & Roshaan (pronounced Row-sharn - Ancient Persian meaning Bright light) is going exceedingly well. The two boys have been playing & bounding all around our large back fenced area (quarter acre). No barking between them & they have been laying down side by side in the shade as they tire. Jontay has been more of a problem, as he barks at anything that even twitches ...he actually nipped at Roshaan's back legs, so I now have him on a leash next to me in the sunporch, as we keep an eye on the big boys, who are sharing g a very shady spot at the moment, actually with sides touching.

The breeder had named our new boy Olo, so I imagine it will take some time for him to get to know his new name. Loki has taken on a new lease of life. He really had taken on a small house-dog mentality, & didn't want to play outdoors very much, preferring to sleep the day away next to Jontay in the lounge. I was concerned that his muscle tone would deteriorate as he really is not that interested in games of fetch & throw etc. I think this could be a match made in heaven, as the two of them have now been out in the garden together for three quarters of an hour & are now chasing each other round the garden, pinching a big pork rawhide bone off one another ....so funny to watch, & all very friendly ...now sharing the same water bowl together, & Jontay is actually looking on without barking.

Breeder did not feed Roshaan this morning & it is now 3pm, so everyone is now overdue on lunch & Roshaan must be very hungry, so going to feed them as suggested above. Will post again later.
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I'm so happy for you...I actually mentioned to hubby today that when Emma goes, I want to do a rescue. I love Sage, but two days or puppy hood, and I know I don't want to do a puppy again....but this is a labor of love and I think perhaps more special knowing this will be our last baby! Emma is 12 and has declined since her sister passed, she has taken to Sage, but isn't the run around play all day type. yet, I did see her protect Sage from the dog next door. It was so cute. She put herself between Sage and Phil and gave Phil a low warning growl. She loves Phil too. She also takes Sages puppy antics in stride.....
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We have all three dogs in the lounge now. Roshaan ate every bit of food in his bowl ....he's a much quicker eater than Loki, but is a very gentle boy & made no attempt to get to Loki's bowl. Loki, on the other hand, kept trying to get to Roshaan's bowl ....he always wants what everybody else has. Loki only ate half of what he normally eats, but as he had a big breakfast plus kibble in his kong whilst we were out, I'm not worried about that. Jontay always eats separately from Loki, so he ate his normal lunch in the hallway in peace. The cats didn't eat much of their lunch, but will have it later. They met up with Roshaan once & it didn't go too badly. He is gentle, so I know that Tammy will adore him once she gets to know him, & Lily will be fine. Rosie will be aloof, as she is with Loki. Took her years to get friendly with Jontay, & he's the same size as her. A few mins ago, Roshaan went quietly up to Jontay & the two of them touched noses without Jontay growling, so that is good progress. Roshaan came up on the sofa with me & lay there for about ten mins. Now he is stretched out on the rug snoozing. Jontay is snoozing a few feet away. Loki is noisily gnawing on a big new treat bone-type thing .....really enjoying himself about three feet away from Roshaan. He has been fine about Roshaan chewing on chew sticks he always has, but guarded the new chewstick very zealously ....I had bought one for each of them, but Loki would not let Roshaan have either of them! I think he would now, as he is busily employed with his one, but Roshaan is sleeping ...or is tying to ...hard with Loki banging, crashing & gnawing loudly! Roshaan keeps lifting up his head to look at him & I can almost hear him sighing deeply, wondering when the noisy kid will fall asleep LOL. Sadly, both cameras are in another room, but will be sure to get some pics soon.
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Mayve ....I know what you mean about small puppies! That is why we went for an older puppy & this Gordon Setter was chosen by us when he was just 16 weeks old, but a death in he family prevented us from being able to get him, & when we could do that, he was no longer available, so it is amazing that he is with us at last, though four months later. It is funny how the older dogs protect the little ones, isn't it? As small as Jontay is, he will try & protect big lumbering puppy Loki. Ahhhhhh .......all three of our fur babies are now snoozing ........& my DH is snoozing in the armchair too. And as usual, Loki has stretched himself right across the closed door, so no-one can leave the room. Pity I am not in the mood for a snooze too!
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