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Old 01-02-2013, 10:20 PM
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I do hope that things work out but I am a little confused as to why things are "in process" with the breeder and the paperwork. A litter is to be registered shortly after they are born. Most register them at about 5 weeks in case there are any losses in the litter and the remainder of the stud fee needs to be paid before the stud dog owner will sign the litter registration.

I got from your email that your puppy is 7-8 mos old at this point. The AKC papers should have been sent to the AKC for registration long ago. I send our puppies home with their AKC papers. If for some reason there is an issue with the mail, information incorrect on the papers, etc, I still give the families the litter registration number and they get the papers within a week or so.

A contract with the price is a bill of sale. Does the contract have the name and AKC number of the mom and dad?? Or even just the mom?? If so, you can contact the AKC and see if the litter has been registered.

As to the other question, a breeder has 6 months to register a litter before there is a "late penalty" assessed to the fee of registering the litter. An individual puppy from the litter has one year from the date the litter was registered to be individually registered before a "late penalty" would be assessed to register the puppy individually.
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Yeah, I'm confused about the in process thing because when a litter is registered there is nothing really to process because its up to the new owners to send them in etc. It sounds kind of weird to me...and you can still register your dog but there is a late fee.
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I also think that something is fishy here. AKC has been downright quick in sending the registration packet to the breeder once the sire owner signs off. The paperwork should have been sent in when the pups were a few weeks old.

I would ask AKC if the litter has been registered.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:39 AM
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Do you have a copy of the Dam's pedigree...you can look on the AKC site to see if the litter has even been registered. You need the registration number of the Dam and the Date that she was added to the stud book records. If you have any questions pm me, I just did this today as ours weren't ready when we picked up Sage last week. They are done now and I would assume we should have them any day now.
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I also think that something is fishy here. AKC has been downright quick in sending the registration packet to the breeder once the sire owner signs off. The paperwork should have been sent in when the pups were a few weeks old.

I would ask AKC if the litter has been registered.

I would have to disagree with this statement. I have waited for up to 3 weeks to get the individual registration papers for a litter back from the AKC. I don't consider 3 weeks to be quick with something that is basically done by computer now.

There may have been an issue with a co-owner signing papers or a stud dog owner who was out of town and doesn't like to or prefer to do registrations via the computer. I have dealt with many stud dog owners who prefer to do things the old fashioned way with paper forms.

However, none of those things equate to the months that have passed in this particular case.
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In the last ten years I haven't waited more than one business week to get the litter paperwork back from the AKC (I send things in via snail mail too). I have to agree with Leslie that something is a little fishy. Being the old grumpy butt that I am, I would have long ago filed a formal complaint with the AKC and pushed for formal misconduct charges. The breeder did not follow the AKC proceedures, and that is a no no.
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In the last ten years I haven't waited more than one business week to get the litter paperwork back from the AKC (I send things in via snail mail too). I have to agree with Leslie that something is a little fishy. Being the old grumpy butt that I am, I would have long ago filed a formal complaint with the AKC and pushed for formal misconduct charges. The breeder did not follow the AKC proceedures, and that is a no no.
I am confused as to where you are saying the breeder didn't follow AKC procedures and formal misconduct charges?

There is nothing that states a breeder has to register a litter or a date when they have to register the litter by. The OP has a signed contract outlining when things would happen. I am not saying that I agree with the terms that were outlined in the contract but they did agree to the terms by signing the contract.
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If the registration papers are not provided, the breeder must provide a bill of sale that includes the full registered name and registration numbers of both parents, and date of birth of the litter.

Without that information, you can't even substantiate that the dog is in fact a purebred dog.
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If the registration papers are not provided, the breeder must provide a bill of sale that includes the full registered name and registration numbers of both parents, and date of birth of the litter.

Without that information, you can't even substantiate that the dog is in fact a purebred dog.
And the OP has stated that they have the contract with the purchase price and expectations in regard to registering the puppy. We do not know that the OP was not provided with the names of the parents or the date of birth of the litter. I actually don't think many people would purchase a puppy without knowing who the parents were and the dob. So, I do not think we can assume the OP was not provided with that information.
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I have the name of the sire and the dam but not the registration number. Is there a way to look up if the litter was registered using just their registered names? I don't want to post their names on here because I don't want people to feel like I am bashing the breeder....but if someone knows how to do this, and would be willing, I can PM you their names. I think both the sire and the dam are owned by the breeder (they both have her kennel's name in their name). This breeder is one that multiple people have recommended as a good breeder on this forum so I'm not sure that this is an issue of her doing something against the rules. Thank you all for your help on this....I really do appreciate it.
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