Goldens and German Shepherds - Page 3 - Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Loki's Mum
 
Dwyllis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 528
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 247
Thanked 338 Times in 210 Posts
Smile

When i was ten years old, i used to take a neighbour's adult GSD for walks & romp around in the park with him off leash. never had any problems walking him as a child, & absolutely no aggression or growling at me or at anyone else we met up with. i loved that dog & was heartbroken when my father put a stop to our outings. My husband had a GSD in the 70s & he still talks about what a wonderful boy Khan was. However, poor Khan was tragically killed on the road when a visitor accidently left a gate open when he was just eight months old. He said Khan was excellent with Obedience class, excellent on a leash, & got on great with other dogs (all GSD in his training class). He says he was an amazing dog. He was protective though & my DH recalls him growling at anybody who came to the house. Like yours, My DH wanted to add a GS to our family recently, as a playmate for your five month old GR boy, but I was never comfortable with the idea, particularly as he did not want another small puppy. I did look into it, but seemed to me that there were quite a few young adult GSD being given away free by the current home, & that concerned me. I would have been happier with a small puppy, though did not want to go through early pup stage so soon again. In the weeks I was looking, only one GR young adult was listed, so I think that says something for the Golden breed. In the end, we went for a Gordon Setter of seven months old, coming straight from the breeder ....the breed & same boy we had chosen to get before we got our goldie ...a long, but interesting story. This beautiful boy will join us tomorrow. Just a thought .....if your husband likes the look of the GSD, but you are worried about the temperament, why not think about adding a Leonburger puppy to your family? They have a similar colouring to the GSD, but they have the most Wonderful temperament & they are very big! We know people with a Leonburger & he is the most laid back, friendly guy, but very impressive in size, & I think that would be enough to scare anyone off who was intent upon mischief. The Leonburger is great with people, children & other pets & is very playful. Beautiful nature & looks majestic. I don't think there are any major health issues with he breed either. Some photos of the magnificent Leonburger below.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	721.5 KB
ID:	123642  

Last edited by Dwyllis; 12-27-2012 at 05:55 PM.
Dwyllis is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Dwyllis For This Useful Post:
Gwen_Dandridge (02-15-2013)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-27-2012, 06:10 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 492
Thanked 199 Times in 152 Posts
I would not get a GSD. The breed has deteriated in MHO. I had a GSD which I got in 1969
and he lived 13 years. He was a great dog and I have good memories of him. But, he was too aggresive at certain times and I had to be careful. This was the beginning of the period when breeders started to go for the sloped back. And that is what has wrecked them. My dog was big and strong and wonderfully athletic. He had a good back up until about 2 years before he died. You don't see that kind of dog anymore. There are websites that show picture profiles of GSDs down through the years. Compare the GSDs from the 50s and 60s to present. I have even more to say but this is good enough.
Door is offline  
post #23 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-27-2012, 07:24 PM
Wyatt Earp
 
Wyatt's mommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chino California
Posts: 3,592
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 1,389
Thanked 1,628 Times in 1,143 Posts
One of Wyatt's play dates is a beautiful 2 year old GS. He loves to retrieve tennis balls and is very sweet. He is just as kooky as Wyatt. I would have no problem getting a GS puppy.

Wyatt's mommy is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Wyatt's mommy For This Useful Post:
HolDaisy (12-27-2012)
post #24 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-27-2012, 07:28 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 381
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 492
Thanked 199 Times in 152 Posts
I need to backpedal. Yes, I think breeders wrecked the GSD breed, but, not intentionally.
Dog breeders as a whole are a good bunch of people and their goal is to improve their breed and they go to great lengths and expense to do so. I should have been clearer, sorry.
Door is offline  
post #25 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-27-2012, 09:59 PM
Advanced Member
 
Selli-Belle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 2,074
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Images: 9
Thanks: 2,253
Thanked 1,334 Times in 696 Posts
We had a wonderful GSD when I was a child, one who would protect the family, but was completely trust worthy. I have met a few as an adult that have been wonderful, but more that are problematic in terms of temperament. If I were to get a GSD, I would spend a LOT of time with the parents to make sure I liked their temperaments.

My sister is on her second Shiloh Shepherd. Definitely not friendly like a Golden, but nice dogs. They are harder to find also, she lives in Las Vegas and her first one was from Texas and her second from Canada. Be warned, they don't live very long and have many of the same health issues (digestive) that GSDs have. Her first boy died at six from a type of leukemia.

Carolyn (A.K.A. Aunt Care) and

Creekwood Tanglefoot Selchie CD, RN, AX, AXJ, CGC, CCA, (A.K.A. Selli-Belle) Golden

Valentine Byrd McDuff (A.K.A. Duffy) Golden/Sheltie

Tanglefoot Autumn Dexter CGC (My Heart Dog at the Bridge) Golden
Selli-Belle is offline  
post #26 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-28-2012, 11:45 AM
Advanced Member
 
Seagodess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 490
Thanked 398 Times in 285 Posts
I just got my first golden and have never had a german shepherd. However I have known people to have them. The ones I've known have been great dogs. Very loyal and protective of their family. The ones I have known were older adults so they were not extreamly active, but did enjoy some play time and walks.
Someone mentioned that they dont show their what their temperment is like until about 6 months. Maybe if you do decide on one, find one that is a few months old and you can figure out if it will work for your family.
Seagodess is offline  
post #27 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-28-2012, 12:20 PM
Preeminent Member
 
cubbysan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lee's Summit, MO (formally Franklin, MA)
Posts: 12,937
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Thanks: 5,408
Thanked 4,561 Times in 2,675 Posts
I have raised two GSD's - they are VERY LOYAL to their owners, but it is a harder breed to own.

The negatives I had which was enough for me to switch breeds even though I loved my Zeus and Nikki:

1) When I owned my GSD's, I could not let my kids friends come over to play or anybody that had any type of fear for the breed or dogs in general.

2) I found many people afraid of them, even when mine was three months old! It made it very hard to socialize and take them out in public.

3) My homeowner's insurance did not cover them - listed as one of the top seven dangerous breeds. I had to go into a state pool insurance, which was more expensive, and then buy a binder covering them.

4) Owners of GSD should be very experienced. Should never be first dog.

Marie, Brady, MacKenzie and Sailor
cubbysan is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to cubbysan For This Useful Post:
Bentleysmom (12-28-2012), Deber (12-29-2012), goldy1 (12-28-2012), LJack (12-28-2012)
post #28 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-28-2012, 02:05 PM
Jen
 
Brave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,996
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 3,863
Thanked 9,119 Times in 4,075 Posts
Back in my teens, when I was working at a boarding facility, I was attacked by a group of three GSD. Shook me up something fierce. Now, it's hard for me to trust them. I know each dog is an individual, but its still hard to not get nervous or anxious around them. Also been attacked by a shar-pei and a Chow. Don't like those breeds either.


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App

Hecate's Hellhound, Bearer of Mischief, CGC - "Bear"
Hecate's Hellhound, Gypsy Magic - "Gypsy"
http://pdgf.pitapata.com/4soam7.png
http://pdgf.pitapata.com/bfSCm7.png
Brave is offline  
post #29 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-29-2012, 05:15 AM
Kye & Coops Mom
 
Deber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East Texas
Posts: 4,467
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 6,421
Thanked 3,178 Times in 2,089 Posts
I honestly believe before you consider any breed you first stop and have a complete soul searching of your actual family life, how much time you devote to your home, your outside activities, how many times a year you meet with others not only in your home, but out in the countryside. Really, write this down and look at it for weeks. Be as honest as you can. Certain breeds were developed to fit almost any lifestyle you have, but to be fair to yourselves and the potential animal you must see first if what this dog was developed for would be good in your lifestyle. Though most of our working breeds, no longer work, they still carry the genes to do what they were bred to do. Next I would find a good breeder and be totally honest with them. Go over and spend time with her males/females. The mother dog is the one who can imprint a lot of her personality to her babes, so you would want her to be a good representative of what characteristics you want most. If you check, you will find most police departments get their dogs from certain kennels because the temperment and early training is what they want/need for the work the dog must eventually learn to do. Guide dogs come from 3 major kennels across the country for the same reason, the parents were trained and the kennel starts early training for guiding the sighted impared. The kennel you pick will have a lot to do with the early genetics of what your dog can become with continued training.

Just be very cautious when looking at a breed if you live in town. Many towns now have lists of dogs that require more home insurance, a higher and more sturdy fense. Some towns I read about are even having people who own a more fighting or protective breed sign waivers of full responibility for the lifetime of the dog (if it remains in the town) where any and all damage or injuries will be paid for by the owners of the dogs. Can be very expensive. My town has this in consideration and will probably pass when it comes to voting time.

A German Shepherd in the right hands can be a wonderful dog. It is one of the smartest and I understand one who is very loyal, but the only ones I have seen are at our Police academy or at shows where they have the side yard used for training the dogs for attack or search. Amazing to watch these dogs in action, but the dogs are watched by spotters and very monitored/handlers very wise. With this said, a GSD would not fit our outgoing country lifestyle. With all the people coming and going, all the dogs they bring, our home would not offer the intense job everyday I think this breed would need to stay happy and well rounded. We need/want dogs who think the world is for them, happy and clownish and a good neighbor. Our goldens fit this and yet when people arrive, if the two are in the yard, they will bark to alert us to a new arrival. This is enough for us.

For you, you must make the decision if you can provide what this dog would need and make your decision from not only your heart, but your head.

Deb & My Golden Kids
Kye & Coop - the loves of my life
My little Biewer Yorkies - all 7 of them!
Sadie & Okey - my mini aussies

I want to surround myself with people who are "Cracked" for they are the ones that let the Sun Shine in.
Deber is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Deber For This Useful Post:
Hank & Jim in NB (03-01-2013), HovawartMom (12-29-2012)
post #30 of 43 (permalink) Old 12-29-2012, 05:35 AM
Supreme Member
 
HovawartMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Images: 3
Thanks: 163
Thanked 314 Times in 186 Posts
I love GSD,most of all,the long-hair version!.
Use to take care of a couple that were wonderful but they need to be keptphysically and mentally busy.
Lots of human and dog socialization will turn it,into a wonderful dog.
They do not love every-one and everything like the golden but they can be sociable if trained propally.You,also, need to know that they can be gender aggressive.
Getting it from a good breeder is a must.
I would have one in a heartbeat but my DH is not crazy,about them.

http://i90.servimg.com/u/f90/11/00/62/68/new_si10.jpg
My Golden's slideshow:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3cQhJc2LDM
My Hovawart's slideshow:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh_1toD6xtc
If you don't like a wet,shedding dog,don't get a golden or a Hovawart!.
RIP,My Beloved Priska & Titus!.
HovawartMom is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome