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Old 12-26-2012, 01:37 PM
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I had one many years ago and he was a very good dog protective of my family but would bite if someone came in to my home uninvited such as my daughters friends who had a bad habit of just walking in. He was from my sisters breeding who was a GSD breeder this dog got along with the schnauzer we had at the time and never caused me any problems.


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Old 12-26-2012, 01:45 PM
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My family have had shepherds for 30 years and have never had a problem with them. We have a beautiful 7 yr old boy right now. He's affectionate, loyal, extremely clever, playful - the kindest dog in the world. Definitely what everyone says about it's how they are raised and socialised, but they are fantasic dogs! (as are goldens of course ) We actually found raising a golden alot more challenging!

If you do go for a GSD - read up lots, find a brilliant breeder that has done all health clearances, bring them up correctly and you won't go wrong (same as goes for any breed). Good luck in your search and let us know if you go for a shepherd or golden.
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I have been around plenty of German sheps and own a Malinois (similar but much higher drive). I love German shepherds but ditto the fact that you HAVE to socialize SO much. Also, they do have a ton of health issues from being overbred so go with a good line. I went with a Mal because of the health issues that GS have.

On the other hand, Remy was attacked pretty badly by a GS one time. So really... Socialization is important, but so are good lines.
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Wow thanks! I had heard a lot of good things about them until now reading your responses. My husband wants a GSD because they are protective and goldens just aren't good at that(at least ours isn't). I would only consider one from a very reputable breeder who takes temperament and health into consideration while breeding and produces confident dogs. This is a big decision for us so we are still going to be thinking about it for a while. I still want a golden but I am willing to consider a GSD. I will keep you posted and let you know when we've finally made our decision!



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I haven't owned a golden (yet) and have never personally owned a German Shepherd, but my whole family has german shepherds, reason unknown to me. When my mom was young, she was bitten in the face by the family dog who was a german, so was her sister, a different dog but still a german. Then, my older brother was bitten in the face by a third german and had to have plastic surgery. All were generally nice dogs, just got upset and bit. While I was growing up and currently, my aunt has owned germans (even after she got bit). All but one have been very nice. Her current dog is probably the best german shepherd I've ever come across. He's super playful and very very sweet and cuddly. He likes to sit on our laps and I had the privilege of sharing a bed with him during my last visit He took up the whole bed, and when I told him to get out, he wouldn't and played dead. Try coaxing a 90 pound german shepherd to get out of the bed at 3am...I kept pulling on his collar and he was dead weight. I finally gave up and didn't sleep that night My aunt's dog also has hip dysplasia...but I know hip dysplasia is common in goldens too.

Anyways though, although I like her dog, I am still nervous around German Shepherds. I don't think I would ever want to own one, especially if I had children. However, my last dog was a Rottweiler and I hated when people would lump him into the mean category, because he was anything but, so I don't want to speak in generalities and every dog is different, depending on their genetics and how they are raised. If you do get a german I think it would be important to meet both parents so you know their personality. Anyways, just my 2 cents...
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I don't know too much about this, but earlier this year I was showing Jinx at an International Dog show and saw a Shilo Shepherd. I am always interested in rare or new breeds and thought this concept was interesting. Basically if you are older than 40 and you have a memory of a great childhood GSD that is what they are getting back to. I would look into it. The boy I saw was at a show in Tucson and I "think" he was from CA. But, boy was he gorgeous and I think he won Best In Show Rare Breed.
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Chance is my first Golden. Before Chance, I had German Shepherds. What everyone has said about GSDs is basically true. Their good traits are wonderful but you can be in for real heartbreak if you get a fearful or aggressive shepherd.

Here is my caution: all the positive training and early socialization in the world cannot erase a genetic predisposition toward over-protectiveness and/or fear-based aggression. It's vitally important the you meet both parents of any prospective puppy you are considering.

What I have found from being involved with GSDs since the 70's is that the average breeder now breeds for health clearances and hips. Much less emphasis on temperment. Temperment problems (like aggression and/or instability) often show up later, usually around 6 months old. I had one breeder tell me it must have been something we did or that he was mistreated. You see, it's not clear-cut like a genetic health problem is.

I could really write volumes on the subject. My last GSD literally made me do the switchover to a Golden. I wanted to enjoy my dog more and because we have overnight out-of-town guests on a regular basis, the Golden personality is a better fit for me and MUCH less worry.

Take your time and get to know some GSDs before you make the decision. Good luck!
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There is a shiloh that goes to a friends kennel... super nice dog... Max... I just adore him and he is a big boy I tell ya but the rear legs don't look deformed to me and they don't have that ridiculous slope. I am not sure about the breed as a whole temperament wise but I do like this boy alot. that having been said there is a great deal of contraversy about whether this is a breed at all and not another way to dupe puppy people.... they are not registerable by any major kennel club and there are alot of irritated people out there... so buyer beware???
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I've heard of shilo shepherds. I saw a 3 month old puppy one time and he was huge. His owner said they are bigger than German Shepherds?


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