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We show and breed Flat Coats and Personally I find my flat coats to be not at all like goldens... they are higher energy... they want something to do all the time... they need a job and if they don't hae a job they can get very high strung... I think about them more as "border collies without the work ethic" ... they are silly... my goldens are much more serious, they are much more biddable and easier to train.. my flats are smart sometimes to smart.

they are not at all like black goldens... temperaments are very different.

As for that boy, I am not seeing alot of golden in him I am seeing flat coat... and a whole lot of it... Flats are wonderful dogs... they are sweet and adventurous and they want to go go go so just be warned... He is quite handsome... I woiuld go for it

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Aww he so cute. I would say go for it. It's great that your not being selfish about the puppy and you think about the puppy's happiness rather than your own. My boyfriend is the same way when it comes to color on a dog he doesn't like them too "dark" I don't get it because I love all dogs, as long as they don't attack me of course lol
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Thank you for that advice Carolina. We already have two dogs ...a six year old papillon as well as our five month old GR. Our young Goldie has actually never given us much trouble. He's really easy-going & good-natured & has all basic commands now under his belt. We won't be going for the younger Gordon Setter, as have now made the decision that it would be better for him to go to this other family, where he will have more space & be able to remain with his sister. Amazingly, my DH is happy to visit with this older boy in three days, so we will go & meet up with him, but we are under no obligation & would certainly not be bringing him home with us, as he still has to be neutered & the Rescue people have to do a property check on us, before agreeing we can adopt him, if that is what we want to do after meeting him. This boy is approaching two years old & has very good recall, according to the people caring for him. We would need to do training with him of course, & are prepared to do that ....he would start attending the same CGC Foundation classes that young Loki has attended these passed few weeks. With regard to the teenager phase, we have raised two Maremmas, bother & sister, through that & actually found it easier with two than we have in the more distant past with just one. Of course Loki is our first GR, so I don't know how he will behave as a teenager. Right now he is mainly very well behaved, & we were thinking it might be nice for him to have a playmate of a similar size to what he will grow into, as he desperately wants to play with our papillon, but sadly the papillon has never been a playful dog & is just not interested. We have certainly not made a decision yet & will think it through very carefully before doing so. Will let everyone know how our meeting goes on Monday.
He is a beautiful boy and maybe the people would let you bring your two dogs to meet him, you can only ask. They would need to meet on neutral territory.

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When I adopted my black lab mix from a kill shelter, the shelter people were also saying that black dogs don't get adopted. Thunder had been there for 2 weeks and his time was up. Well, we adopted Thunder and could not have been happier and that was close to 11 years ago. He is a wonderful dog.
I would also say, if you are really sure about getting your dog a buddy at this point, then go for it if it is a good match.
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he is beautiful. I like that you are going to go meet him first. Being that he is a mix you may end up with some of each traits, but then you know that already. As much as I would like to see this guy rescued, it needs to be a good fit.

As for passing on the Gordon to give him a home with his sister. I think I might have made the same decision as it just seems to be a good fit for this boy.

Whatever you decide, I think you will make the right decision as you do seem to take your time and not just jump in. I did that with my Sage, this was to important a decision for not just us, but for any dog we add to our family as well...Look forward to hearing about your visit!
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I've never really understood the thing about black dogs either. Weird to me. At my SPCA we have occasional themed "sales" which play the problem up in a humorous way. We offer black dogs and cats at a lower adoption fee right before Halloween. Etc. When the Sf Giants are in playoffs, we do a special on all animals with orange and/or black in them.

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Well we have been trying to choose a name for him .....we have to start early on names as neither of us can ever agree on a name we both like. I settled on Teon ...I like ancient Celtic or Norse names, as uncommon. I think it is an elegant name for an elegant boy. My DH hates it ....says he could not live with it ...thank goodness ours is a second marriage & we don't have any children with one another, as I think choosing their names would have seen us in a divorce court LOL. My DH has chosen Sultan. I prefer Teon, but ok with Sultan, si if this lovely boy does join our family, I think he will be called Sultan. The lady at the pound called him Bill ...each week they name incoming dogs with a different letter of the alphabet ...I guess it makes it easy for them to know how long they have been with them.

Re the breed of this boy .....Flat- Coated Retrievers are very rare in NZ. There is just one breeder in the country. I have looked at her boys & yes, this boy is virtually identical, in build & looks. Seems in temperament also, as the Rescue people said he was very affectionate, very playful, cuddly & goofy. I am guessing they are not familiar with the FCR, but can see he is a retriever & that is why they are saying he is a mix. I will take my camera on Monday. The Rescue people have suggested we visit initially without Loki, so that we can spend time getting to know him without distractions & take him for a walk. Then if we bond with him, we could visit a few days later with Loki. The shelter is an hour drive from where we live. My DH now seems quite keen!
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I hope you get him! I'm with your DH on this one, Sultan sounds perfect
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He is beautiful and I hope you adopt him. It feels like it's meant to be. As you can tell from my pictures we have both black and golden in our family and love all colours. I think if your DH says yes I'd let him choose the name. I think that's a good first step for them bonding.
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