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Not taking care of vet care, not neutering, wanting to get rid of them and then asking for money... How sad...

I would not trust anything they say, especially because they want money for the dogs.

Reputable breeders demand that dogs be returned to them.

I would assess them and talk them into adopting them for free.


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Thanks everyone for the responses so far. I was able to get a few more answers. The owners bought the dog from a breeder here in the county. They are AKC registered and purebred for sure. They received their "puppy shots", but have not been neutered because they planned on "studding them out" at some point.
They gave a good amount of info about their personalities, etc.
They said they are both in great health according to vet, but I will ask for the vet info to inquire further.
Maybe most importantly: they are giving them up because they are a military family who is being re-stationed in January. They are moving into an apartment and are due a baby soon. They feel like it is not a fair environment to raise the dogs in. The owners talked about how sad they were to see them go, and said that is why they have yet to sell them, because they want it to be the right family.
These two points bother me a lot.

Were they not military when they got the dogs? Did they always plan on dumping them when they got re-stationed?

And anyone who buys dogs with the plans of studding them out, with no plans of doing health clearances or with any deep knowledge of the breed and bettering the breed, well, I just can't even express how angry that makes me. Yes, I am making huge assumptions here. How do I know they wouldn't get health clearances? Well, I guess I don't know for sure. But the fact that they don't even get the dogs primary vet care? Pretty big clue.

Honestly, I wouldn't adopt one of these dogs - but not for the reasons I stated above. A rescue means you don't always get the clearances and history. But I think these dogs have had a hard start to life, and separating them seems cruel to me. I would much rather see them go to a family that can keep them together.


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I agree, I would not take them, if I cannot take both.

A lot here sounds fishy to me. Obviously the military family did not live in housing on post? If they had lived on post, they would have had to register the dogs on post, have them vaccinated, HW tested and microchipped by military requirements.

I feel so sorry for those two boys!
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I just want to say, encouraging a family with young kids to purchase 2 adult goldens when this is their first dog, let alone an active & hairy golden x's 2 could be setting these boys up for disaster. I will say in the rescues I've volunteered with, we always evaluate goldens surrendered as pairs to see if they are truly bonded or would do just as well adopted out separately. Just because they come in together doesn't mean they have to leave together.
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They received their "puppy shots"...
They said they are both in great health according to vet, but I will ask for the vet info to inquire further.
According to what vet? I feel like these could be two great goldens, but the fact that the family is lying about the vetting--how can a vet say they're in great health when they've never seen one?" Would make me pass. I would encourage them to surrender them to rescue who will ensure proper vetting is accomplished and who will also be able to appropriately assess their temperaments and match them to a compatible family.

To the OP, have you considered contacting a rescue vice going through a private rehoming?
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Although, I may want to dope slap the owners of these dogs for their lack of responsibility, I would not count these dogs out. They likely are the very sweet, lovely dogs the owner says they are.

You just need to be aware of what getting one these dogs would entail., i.e. expenses to get them up to date on vaccines and neutering. $250 is more of a rehoming fee than a purchase price, especially in California and you do get a crate. But realize that you will need to spend at least another $500 at the vet right off the bat, basically before you take the dog home.

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So what's the final decision?


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As of now, I am putting everything on hold, and will likely not take one of the dogs. A huge part of that is the financial side. I do not like the idea of forking over hundreds of dollars to a Vet just to get the dogs updated to the point where they already should be. Add on top of that the uncertainty of what the Vet may find, and it could get expensive very quickly.
We still need to do a bit more soul-searching on whether we are ready for the dog life as well.
Someone on here made a great point about "dog-proofing" our home so the dog doesn't chew or choke on toys. I had not considered that and that would be a very difficult thing in our home. We keep a tidy house but a 4 year old is a 4 year old.
I have given it a couple of days to think about, and will give it more time as well. Unless the owners make some big concessions, we will probably pass on of these beauties.
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