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My next step is just once again making sure we are ready for this. We have two young children (4 and 6) and we know they would get a ton of joy out of it. This seems like a great fit for us as well. We know it is the breed we want (for numerous reasons), and we love the fact that we get to skip some of the difficult puppy stage. We also know the dog would be a ton of work and time. Every situation is different, but I have tried to think through the biggest obstacles for us "making the leap":
- We have a certain fear of coyotes where we live. GR's are a decent size, so that helps. And we would keep them inside most of the time. But the sounds we hear at night are sometimes spine-chilling. I couldn't imagine having that happen to your own pet.
- The shedding. It sounds so silly typing it. I know GR's shed a decent amount, and its just part of owning a dog. But, we host and entertain a lot, and keep a very tidy house. We also have one of those homes that is white and beige throughout, and having a GR running around would be interesting to say the least.
- Trips, Conferences, etc. My wife is able to stay home, which is a huge benefit in having a dog. However, I can think of several times a year (maybe 5-7) when we are gone for a weekend, a week, etc for business or vacation. Figuring out who would take care of our dog is obviously a big thing to consider.
I am often an over-thinker and a researcher, but in a situation like this, I think that is a good thing. We certainly are not the type that see a puppy at the pet store in the mall, buy it, and never realize the work it would take. We are trying to be thorough and make sure we are ready to become a parent again. I also have to leave out of my mind the fact that we would give this to our kids at Christmas. That can be a sentimental roadblock.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:21 AM
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Choosing to help dogs who are being rehomed is awesome!

They are very cute! It's highly unlikely they'll have clearances or anything like that but no rescue really does so I would just want them to be healthy enough to know that I won't be stuck with crazy vet bills that I can't afford. A vet visit is a great option or calling their vet (if they had one).

Not sure if they're asking for money but I definitely would advise you never to pay for dogs being "rehomed". This can be a red flag and can signal that they are actually selling dogs. Even if they advertise with a "rehoming fee" they should waive that for a good home or make it so minimal that you're really just paying for any supplies like a crate. It is commonly advised that people advertise with a small rehoming fee to weed out people who just want a free dog and then to waive the fee for a good home.

I wouldn't necessarily ask a lot of questions but I would interact a lot with the dogs and take them on a walk, let them meet other dogs, kids, cats etc. - people tend to say whatever people want to hear when they are rehoming pets so I probably wouldn't bother asking them about their behaviour/health history (sorry, taking in dogs at shelters for years has taught me a few things).

I do have to say though that the age is probably the most difficult age to get a dog. Puppies are much easier than teenagers/young adults in my option.

At the shelter dogs that are returned are almost always the high energy breeds around this age, not puppies.

Good luck! I think you've found a great potential couple of dogs.
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Sounds like you're on the right track!

As far as housekeeping is concerned, a good vacuum can do wonders. With beige and white most hair will blend in, haha.

Two goldens, in my opinion, are overall easier than one. Although you have twice the hair and cleaning they help to keep each other occupied and entertained. That can speak volumes, especially when you get busy.

Good luck and it sounds like you're thinking things through well!
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Both of these boys are good looking, really sorry to hear you aren't considering taking them both. IMO, there is very little difference in having two vs. only one. It's not that much more work and it gives the dog a playmate.

I use to help a GR Rescue with Intake-here are a few questions you may want to ask especially since you have young children. These are some questions that were on the Intake form of the group I helped along with the ones you've already asked.


Have these dogs been around children? If so what ages? How did they act around children?
Any bite incidents, if so, get as many details as possible.
Can you take toys, bones/chews, food from them without any agression being shown?

Are they afraid of anything such as storms, fireworks, etc. and what is their reaction?

There are a lot of advantages of taking an older dog, I adopted both of mine at the age of 2. My girl is from the GR Rescue I use to help, she turns 8 this month. I found my boy last year at my County Humane Society. You don't have to deal with house breaking and the puppy issues. If these dogs have been trained, which it sounds like they have had some training, you are going to have a dog that is well behaved and well mannered possibly. Goldens require a lot of exercise, I hope you've got a plan for play time and daily exercise such as long walks.

If you decide to take one of them, give the dog several weeks to relax, adjust to a new environment. Some dogs take longer than others, some dogs fit in right away. That was the case with my boy that I adopted, it was like he'd always belonged.

If you decide not to take one or both of these dogs, could you give the owners the info for the Golden Retriever Rescue that covers your area.

Here is the link for the National Golden Retriever Rescues, click on the State, a list of Groups will come up. Contact the Groups in your area.

National Rescue Committee of the Golden Retriever Club of America

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1) Remember, the fact that these dogs are AKC registered means NOTHING in regard to the health and quality of the dogs.

2) Although all dogs deserve a great home, and if you were to get one or both of these dogs and neuter them you would be doing a service by reducing the potential number of poorly bred dogs in the world, this is a rescue situation not a purchase situation. I would not pay more than a nominal amount (say the amount your local Golden rescue uses as an adoption fee) for the dogs.

3) I would be inclined to take both dogs rather than just one. They are young males and undoubtedly and hopefully play with each other a great deal. If you only took one, he would need something/someone to take the place of the brother (and I am using the term brother in a non-genetic way) which could lead to problems in a novice busy family with young kids.
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They are both cute and I would take both rather than splitting them up.
I have three dogs, at the point I had two dogs, there was not much difference between one and two and the two boys got to play with each other and had company when nobody was home.

With you having two young children, I think two dogs might be beneficial, because the dogs can wear each other out instead of your children.
I would really really think it over before making a decision. Make sure if you take one or both, that you are fully committed to the dogs for the rest of their life. They sure don't need to be bounced around from family to family.
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My next step is just once again making sure we are ready for this. We have two young children (4 and 6) and we know they would get a ton of joy out of it. This seems like a great fit for us as well. We know it is the breed we want (for numerous reasons), and we love the fact that we get to skip some of the difficult puppy stage. We also know the dog would be a ton of work and time. Every situation is different, but I have tried to think through the biggest obstacles for us "making the leap":
- We have a certain fear of coyotes where we live. GR's are a decent size, so that helps. And we would keep them inside most of the time. But the sounds we hear at night are sometimes spine-chilling. I couldn't imagine having that happen to your own pet.
- The shedding. It sounds so silly typing it. I know GR's shed a decent amount, and its just part of owning a dog. But, we host and entertain a lot, and keep a very tidy house. We also have one of those homes that is white and beige throughout, and having a GR running around would be interesting to say the least.
- Trips, Conferences, etc. My wife is able to stay home, which is a huge benefit in having a dog. However, I can think of several times a year (maybe 5-7) when we are gone for a weekend, a week, etc for business or vacation. Figuring out who would take care of our dog is obviously a big thing to consider.
I am often an over-thinker and a researcher, but in a situation like this, I think that is a good thing. We certainly are not the type that see a puppy at the pet store in the mall, buy it, and never realize the work it would take. We are trying to be thorough and make sure we are ready to become a parent again. I also have to leave out of my mind the fact that we would give this to our kids at Christmas. That can be a sentimental roadblock.
I'm back to comment on several of your concerns -

The coyotes - hopefully your dog will be spending nights and most of his daytime indoors with your family. Goldens are very social and not happy outdoors alone. We have coyotes here as well, but Hank is usually with us and there has never been a problem.

The shedding... yes Goldens shed, but really only twice a year and not as much as some dogs. Golden hair floats on the floors rather than sticks in things, much easier to vaccum or sweep. A small price to pay for the joy a dog brings to our home.

Trips... those week-long and weekend trips will take more planning but in my experience as your children grow and get more involved in school, sports, dance etc. your family probably won't be accompaning you anyway. For those times when your family does travel, a house/dog sitter or great kennel is an option.

I hate seeing them separated, but I understand taking on two dogs at one time may be overwhelming. Our DD & SIL have 3 dogs, not for everyone (I prefer 1 at a time) but works for them. With that said, since they were raised together the usual adding a dog logistics (feeding, attention sharing etc) will already be worked out and will keep each other company. It might be easier than you think.
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Here are more answers I received based on questions and suggestions from you kind folks:
- No biting incidents. Both have very kind natures
- They haven't found them to be scared of anything. One dog doesn't love them sweeping with a broom, but they just leave the room as opposed to bark and panic.
- The owners do not have children, but all of their friends/neighbors do. The dogs love the kids, play with them, and love to lick them.
- They have never taken them to a Vet. The breeders took care of all of their shots, deworming, etc., and they have not had a reason to take them they said. So, no vet to call. I asked if I could have a check-up done before taking them home.
- They are asking $250 for one dog. That comes with all of their supplies, crate, etc.
Honest or not, they are very good to answer questions. They say over and over how incredibly sweet-natured the dogs are.
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- They have never taken them to a Vet. The breeders took care of all of their shots, deworming, etc., and they have not had a reason to take them they said. So, no vet to call. I asked if I could have a check-up done before taking them home.
In the 1.5 years that this family has had them, neither dog has seen a vet? Not neutered, not on HW prevention & most likely due for shots to be updated--$250 is too much. If you pursue this, I'd ask for the dog to be vet checked and the purchase price applied to the vet visit. I would not permit my kids (if I had any) to be around a dog that I could not validate had been appropriately vaccinated. Also, unless the breeder is a vet, he/she was not authorized to administer the rabies vaccination.
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Very importantly, the rabies vaccine they give a puppy (typically at around 16 weeks) is only good for a year. So these dogs either have never had a rabies vaccine or have an out of date rabies vaccine.
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