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I am so sorry about Tesia. You must be so confused right now, as well as devasted. I will pray that the needle aspiration was correct and the mistake is in the histology. I see you are in Toronto, TEC is great place, they have all the specialists on staff and they ones I have dealt with have been great. Do you think a second opinion would be beneficial? If you are not interested in TEC there is always Uof Guelph.

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Is the TEC the same as the VEC? At Yonge and Davenport? I think that is where I will see the oncologist. My vet recommended Dr. Finora there, or another oncologist in Mississauga. But I think I'm going to go with VEC - it is nearer to me, and it is part of the 24/7 emergency clinic. I have a familiarity with it, as Tee has been there for an emergency in the past (and they were wonderful), and if I ever needed to bring her there in an emergency, her full oncology file will be there. I went on their site yesterday and started looking through the literature they have on cancer. I expect I will be calling them after our regular vet appt this afternoon. Did you deal with an oncologist there?

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So sorry that you are going through this, we are thinking of you and praying for your little girl. I hope that the vet can you some more information.






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I can't believe I missed the original thread, but I'm so very sorry for this news. I can unfortunately say that I've been in similar situations over the last few years and completely understand your emotions. Once the FNA showed malignancy, but the mass was benign and another where the FNA showed benign tumor, but the histology revealed a malignant tumor. The first time it happened I was so overwhelmed with anger and sadness. I didn't know if I wanted to fight with someone or fall into a heap and cry.

I was told that for us, unfortunately, the definitive results were from the histology. The FNA, even with multiple draws, could possibly miss cancerous cells or pull cells that appear unusual, but until histology is complete it's a "best guess" situation.

She also had a suspected melanoma removed from her side. At the time, I kept asking the oncologist how she would get melanoma on her side, under all that hair, as an inside dog. He told me that melanomas come up all over the place and it wasn't unusual for it to be in a less traditional location.

I agree with your vet's recommendation to make an appt with the oncologist. We sending thoughts and prayers of strength, patience and resolve to you and your lovely girl.
You have been through exactly the same devastating roller coaster. I am sorry for you, too.

I know when they did the FNA, there was the caveat that it is preliminary. But my vet felt very confident - she specifically told me she took lots of samples because the mass was so large and there were two smaller masses attached to it. It's just SO different. I read through both reports yesterday, and googled what I didn't understand (all the terminology around the description of the cells, for example) and it was just like they were looking at two different masses.

But, the small hard lump on her back WAS grade one cancer. And the histology suggests the big mass under her leg and that small back tumour are related. I think was is hurting me most right now is knowing that they didn't get clean margins on the big one because it was supposedly benign. And so she still has cancer in her, and she needs to undergo another surgery. Your reaction was exactly mine - I didn't know whether to be angry or just fall into a heap and cry. But I've just been crying. All while constantly telling Tesia softly in her ear that she is going to be just fine. She is a strong girl, and she will be fine. I need to believe that with all my heart.

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So sorry for what you are going through. Good thoughts and prayers your way.


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I am so sorry to hear this. My Honey had a place on her rear leg thought to be nothing, but when he removed it he said it looked "ugly" underneath, so sent it off---grade 2 mast cell tumor. No clean edges, so he had to remove a larger area. This was 3 years ago this past June and she is 11, even tho we don't celebrate her 11th birthday until Dec. which is also her 10th anniversary adoption day. I hope and pray you get the same results with you sweet girl.
Thank you for this. It gives me hope. I am so worried about her having another surgery. But if getting out cleaner margins will help her recover better, I know it will help her. Right now, that wound is not healing well, and there is suspicion that it is because there is still cancer there. I'm not sure whether the oncologist does surgery himself and will do the next one; I guess I will find all this out.

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I woke up thinking about you both. Please let us know when your appt with the oncologist is. ((((HUGS))))
Thank you - it touches me that Tee has touched so many people's hearts here. I know I, too, have spent so much time thinking about many of the sweet dogs here and what they're going through. This is the first time I've been on the other end. I now know how much it means.

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I've been following your story with Tesia, and I'm so sorry that this has turned out the way it has. I hope you can develop a good plan with the oncologist, they really are such a help. We worked for weeks with an oncologist when Carmella had a cancer scare, and she was absolutely wonderful.

I'm pulling for you and Tesia!


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I am so sorry you're going through this! Sending positive vibes and love your way. I'll keep you and your beautiful girl in my thoughts as you go through this difficult time.
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I'm so very sorry to read about the test results. Please know I'm thinking of you and praying for you and your sweet girl.


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So very sorry to hear the nightmare you are going through... Unfortunately many of us here have been down this awful road.

I thank God I found this forum when I did because the support I received here helped me make it through on days I thought I just couldn't.

You and Tesia have my prayers and hugs...

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I miss you more than words can ever say, my sweet sweet boy...my forever heart boy.

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