She's a good kid most of the time. She is a lazy dog, that is for sure. First we thought it was that she was just tired from running the streets/raising pups, but now we know that she is content to sleep 20 hours a day. We are taking her to REI Monday to fit her for a coat while October has her semi-annual checkup and a couple vaccines. That will hopefully help with the not wanting to play at the park issue. We are going to ask the vet about her extra itchiness then.
As far as food goes, they eat Nutro Natural Large Breed Adult Chicken & Brown Rice. She was on Fromms allegedly when we got her, but when we fed it to her she had blowout diarrhea so I feel like that was a lie. We can't feed anything richer like that because October has a slightly elevated enzyme with her liver or kidneys, I can't remember, that she shouldn't eat a diet more than 25% protien. If she didn't start gaining weight on it we were going to switch her to the high endurance formula, but we'd have to feed October different food then. I'd say she's gaining now though, no more ribs!
Does anyone know how to get a dog to stop drinking like they've never seen water before? Pandora is an odd one and she will like only drink once or twice a day, always right after she eats, which scares me about bloat. We already have to feed her out of a slow down bowl but she will drink an entire bowl of water if we don't stop her. If we have a half empty bowl, she will drain it then push the empty bowl across the floor trying to get every drop. If the bowl is empty she will check to see if the toilet lid is open. There is water available to her always, unless she is in her kennel, which is only when we are at work. I've just never seen a dog drink like this before, she's had a full lab workup, so we know it's not a thyroid thing or anything.
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Please be aware just because "Google" says it is so, does not make it so. And do not judge by the energy level as many of the most hyper, energetic Goldens I have ever met were from conformation lines.
Hank and the girls
Oriana - UDX VER JH WC CCA VC
Brooke - UD WC CCA VC
Waiting at the Bridge
Brandi - CDX (1992 - 2003)
Kizmet - Am/Can CD (2005 - 2007)
Keeper - Can OTCh UD RN SH MX MXJ OAP AJP WC CCA VCX OD Can AGN WC VC (1996 - 2010)
Lucy - UDX RN MX MXJ WC CCA VCX Can CDX WC (2000 - 2013)
Buddy was a water bowl emptier when I rescued him- His previous owner only gave water once per day and then that was it! Overtime he has learned the water bowl would always be available and he didn't need to finish the bowl every time he walked near it.
I do what I like and like what I do. Yorkies- Cozy (4/1/06), Roxy & Zoey (2/11/08), Lucy (4/6/09); Golden- Buddy (4/13/09- Rescued 12/11) Maine Coon cats- Mika (1998) and Tallulah (2000)
GOLDWIN's Buddy Got Wiser CGC . Future AKC Therapy Dog
My Tucker also drinks water like it's going out of style. You can pick up the bowl if you think he's had too much and close the toilet seat.
Never thought that maybe he didn't always have water available to him, prior to our adopting him.
Tonka & Tucker
SNOBEAR at the Bridge
Dec. 23, 1999-March 27, 2010
SMOOCH at the Bridge.
Feb. 14, 1999-Dec. 7, 2010
Well, today was Spay day. Due to the circumstances that we got Pandora from, she was eligible to be spayed at a local rescue. All About Animals out of Warren, MI. You can't beat $80 for surgery and meds.
She is doing great thus far, and by great I mean she is passed out on the floor. She was spayed by Dr. Laura, we never got to meet her, but she wrote nice things about our girl. Even the technicians commented on how every time anyone walked in the room Pandora was wagging her whole body. She also has the tiniest incision I've seen on a full grown dog. I mean it's tiny, smaller than mine from when I had my gallbladder out, and that was laparoscopic.
She seems a bit uncomfortable now, they didn't send us home with pain medication, however we were told they do a time release pain injection that lasts for three days. I'm betting that has to be Metacam based on my knowledge from working in clinics. She is not particularly interested in food, she did drink the small amounts we've offered so far. I'm not worried though, I'm sure she'll be back on her food tomorrow.
Unfortunately they did tell us she has a rash on her belly again. We know she's got an ear infection again, and per the vet we've been treating with the medication from before. I think once she gets settled we have have to start a food trial. Right now she is on chicken & brown rice Nutro natural choice. We may go the grain free route or the different meat. Maybe the venison & rice Nutro. We are hoping to stay in the $50 and under range, considering we go through about two bags a month. Plus we have to stay under 25% protein. Any suggestions?
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Hi! Pandora is adorable!
My red golden Pira also has some allergies. By no means I am an expert on this, but based on some research I did here in this forum and elsewhere I found some things that worked for Pira. We believe her allergies to be environmental (including fleas) and not food related.
1) Fish Oil capsules
2) Bath with very diluted shampoo (1 to 8 or so). The shampoo I use is Epi-Soothe Oatmeal Shampoo.
3) I started using ResiSoothe Leave-on Lotion also very diluted to spray before combing her hair.
4) I realized that I was not very careful when taking the shampoo out. Now I spend most time of the bath rinsing than actually putting the shampoo. If you think you rinsed enough, rinse it one more time just in case.
5) Maybe this is one of the most important one (at least that's what I think): I always always always make her go into the bathtub to wash her feet every single time she goes to a park, grass, etc. It is time demanding but now the carpet is much cleaner of all the dust, mud, pollen, products (chemicals) people put on grass, etc. Some times if she rolled on it, I would also take a wet towel and clean her body.
6) Virbac Epi-Otic Dog & Cat Ear Cleanser. This cleared Pira's ear. Since I started using she never had any more problems with her ears. (She had a lot of problems before). I start with a cotton ball. I put lots of the product on it and I press the cotton ball with my fingers so it will release the liquid in her ears without her realizing that I am squishing something in. Usually around 5 drops or so. Than I would do a biiiig massage in bottom of her ears until I hear a swooshing sound (means the liquid got into the canal). I would not use this product so often, just after baths to dry her ear out. This product is drying but does not have alcohol that would create pain if there is an infection. Yay!
I heard about the apple cider vinegar and at some point will try that too. I am also flirting with the idea of raw feeding. A lot of people with dogs with allergies end up going into that path.
Good luck with your new friend!!
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i am very very lucky to have her.
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Hank & Jim in NB (04-01-2013)
When we first got her, the crazy lady who lied a lot, told us she had a food allergy, but she was crawling with fleas and infection, so we figured all the hair loss was from that. She's going in to see our primary vet next week, I think Tuesday. I'm sure we are in for another round of antibiotics and antifungals. I feel like a neglectful owner, but I swear I'm washing her ears weekly, but in less than a week she built up the brown gook again. We thought the itching at first was from the electric heat being turned on, since all of us were itchy, but she's getting worse.
Miss sassy pants also didn't want to eat after her spay, so by Tuesday midnight, I was worried and got some canned food. She scarfed that right down, then refused to eat the regular dry food until dinner today. Now she won't eat out of her slow-down bowl. What a brat. It's like when our other dog won't take her pills with anything but peanut butter, not cream cheese, yogurt, pill pockets, ball of wet food, nope, only peanut butter.
I'm going to bring up the food thing with the vet. It'd be great if she could go on venison since that's one of the things the cat can eat (yeah, the cat has to eat Hill's z/d prescription food that runs $53 for an 8.5# bag), and not get hives and go bald on her face. She always tries to steal the dogs kibbles too, and the dogs let her... Wusses.
But the cone is helping with the licking/itching. She can't really eat her arms & side like she wants too, and boy does she want to lick the crap out of her stomach too. If you leave her without the cone and even walk into the kitchen, bam, she's face first in her belly licking and trying to chew. She also is unfortunately spending more time in her kennel than usual. She can't master walking with the cone and just dips her head, then the cone drags and she actually trips on it and does a sort of body slam/flip thing. So to avoid any further 'clumsiest dog in the world' incidents and her hurting her incision, she is in her kennel or we make her stay on a dog bed.
I guess I should get back to work at work. Will keep you posted on the girls.
6 Month Update!
We are going in for our 6 month vet appointment on Monday, of course there is something wrong with her again. I'd be pretty angry with a breeder right now if that's where our Pandora came from. We just moved to a new bigger apartment, Pandora is much happier (and better behaved than our other dog who is showing her displeasure to moving by pooping in her kennel/next to the bed so you step in it when you wake up)
She recently started trying to chew off her nipples it seems. When I looked at them, they were dry and cracking, with these little black specks on them. First I thought they were mites of bits of dried blood, but then I busted out the phone and googled them. It seems dogs get nipple zits.. Gross, but yes, they sort of rub/squeeze off and she doesn't seem to mind.
Of course we have another ear infection. I'm cleaning those things twice a week like the vet says, but she's full of brown gunk 2 days later. We have changed her and our other dog to Nutro Naturals Brown Rice & Venison, with no beef, chicken, corn, or wheat in ANYTHING. And it's terrible because anything with sweet potato gives our other dog blowout diarrhea. Try finding those treats... She has been on no anything food for well over three months, so we are going to check with the vet for the next step.
Since it's starting to warm up here in Michigan, we plan to sneak her into the "No Dogs" beach at our local park so she can walk into the water and we can figure out if she can swim or is going to need a life jacket like her sister. (Who can swim perfectly fine but has a ridiculously over protective mother.) It's not quite warm enough yet, but I've seen plenty of goldens who are missing the swimming gene it seems, at the park.
On a completely other note, she is borderline fat according to the last vet visit. We had to cut her back to two and a half cups a day rather than three. She still acts like a starving dog though, and will happily eat her sister's dinner if you aren't watching.
But, Happy Ending, or rather happy beginning to a new life.
Pandora & October
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to hear about her ear infections. I adopted my boy 2 years ago from my County Shelter, he had trouble with ear infections for a while. I've never dealt with this before with my other Goldens. I finally have his ears under control.
What kind of ear wash/cleanser are you using? I have used several over the years, my Vet recommended Virbac Epi Optic Ear cleanser, it's got a drying agent. I have found this to work the best on my boy of any of the ear cleansers I've tried. I flush his ears weekly, check them several times throughout the week.
I take my guys swimming a lot, my Vet said to be sure to keep his ears dry after swimming and baths. My golden girl has never had any problems with her ears, neither did my previous boy. I'm glad to have them undercontrol now.
I'm feeding my guys PPP SS, it's Salmon. My boy was having some skin and stomach issues, made the switch and his problems cleared up with a very short time.
Your girls are so pretty, enjoy them.