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Emma is leaking...again

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#1 ·
Emma, who is 7 months old, has been on cephalexin and ketoconazole for an ear infection. After 1 week of this treatment, she developed incontinence. There are little droplets of urine, like a trail, following her. This happens on and off throughout the day. She appears unaware this is happening, and does not seem to be in pain.

At the vet visit, a urinalysis was normal, an ultrasound showed no stones and a rectal exam, all normal. Other than this, she appears healthy and happy. The vet is stumped and so am I.

Thinking back, this happened before. When she was 13 weeks old, she was on antibiotics for a GI infection, and developed the same symptoms. The issue resolved itself after a couple of weeks. At that time, we thought she had regressed on her potty training or was too excited.

This is not just puppy excitement or submissive urination. Throughout the day, she has periods when her bottom is wet, and trailing urine.

I am very worried.
 
#66 ·
Our vet. has a large practice with several doctors who are linked with UC Davis. One of the internists reviewed her case, performed the ultrasound and made the diagnosis.

I could take her to UC Davis if there was some type of treatment that could preserve her kidney function...I know of no such treatment.
 
#69 ·
I just read through your posts and I'm so sorry for your diagnosis. We have a similar issue, but Jesse is at the other end of her life at 15 years old.


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#70 ·
So sorry... It looks like management is the way to go... I have seen it more in labs, but with diet and meds like enalapril, some dogs have done very well for a long time. So so sad...
 
#73 ·
It cant be, I am so sorry. She is just a baby. Sending prayers that something can be done. Sally's Mom words give me some hope that Emma could be with you for long time. I am praying for it with all my heart.
 
#83 ·
I'm so sorry... Praying for your little girl.
 
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#87 ·
You can take canned K/d, slice it and bake it low like you would if you were making dog biscuits... I would store the result in the fridge. Mine like inert bones like nylabones...
 
#89 ·
And yet when you think your heart couldn't be any more broken, life just finds the way to shatter it in the smaller peaces. I have no words to describe how sorry I am. Emma is such a sweetheart! From this day on she will be in my daily prayers. Hugs and belly rubs sent over to sweet Emma girl.
 
#91 ·
Very sad to hear about Emma. Are the vets and specialist absolutly certain it's not Ectopic ureter? I would look at doing a contrast scan to rule it out completely. I only say this cause all of Emma's symptoms are identical to what my Lab Kona had. She would dribble constantly and never even realize it. She will still let us know she needed to go pee and would squat and urinate no problem but anytime she had anything in that bladder it was dribbling out. I had to laugh about checking her butt but if I was to add it up I probably have months of time spent wiping her bum and legs and also putting cream around her privates due to the urine causing bumps and infections.

The UTI is very common cause she is leaking urine. It's difficult to keep that area clean and prone to infection even more now. A diaper with a maxi pad inside it will help a lot since it will soak up the urine and help keep her dry. I know when we first got Kona we battled a few UTI's and when the UTI's never went away that's when the vet recommended we see a specialist. But before the specialist we did like you and tried every medicine and option under the sun. I easily spent 4-500 on medicines and different options. None of them made a difference except give her more energy. The only way to rule out Ectopic ureter is to have a contrast scan performed. They will inject the bladder with a dye and do an xray and make sure the ureters from the kidneys are working correctly and going where they need to go.

The retriever breeds are more prone to Ectopic ureter and females even more so. We ended up having one done and found out that both of her ureters went into the bladder but then came right back out and dumped into her urethra. So since being born her bladder was never used, never had a chance to develop.

Anyways, I don't need to go into my story. It's incredibly long, lots of surgery's but has a very happy ending. If you want to hear it all and what we went through I would be happy to tell it, just don't want to write a novel in your thread.

Let me know if I can offer any assistance. I have been through what you are going through and it's rough.


Anyways, I know it's more money but I still would want to rule out Ectopic ureter. If she does have that it can be cured or improved greatly.




Oh and just to make you feel better. A pic of her wearing the diaper of shame....(poor girl, it's not her fault.)

 
#103 ·
Very sad to hear about Emma. Are the vets and specialist absolutly certain it's not Ectopic ureter?

At this point, we know she is in Stage II/III kidney failure. She was born with abnormal kidneys.

She may also have ectopic ureter, but for now we are trying hormones first for the incontinence. If that doesn't work, she will have to have additional studies to determine the cause of the incontinence.
 
#94 ·
She rarely has one on now. I put it on when she is inside just out of habit and for that "just in case" factor but it's never wet.


And Emma will get use to them. At first she will rub it against everything and want to try and take it off but eventually she will not even know it's there. Kona knows the drill now when she comes inside. She sticks her head between my legs and lets me put it on, takes 2 seconds.


Buy two nice ones and just swap them out. I tried the cheap disposable ones and also tried baby diapers and cutting a hole and the fabric ones with Velcro are by far the best way to go. I would also buy some cheap women maxi pads. They stick to the inside nicely and keep the diaper clean longer and easier to manage.
 
#96 ·
Our appointment at UC Davis was moved up to this morning. It was good to go. Emma has about 24% remaining kidney function. Our job is to prevent infection and support her function with supplements and nutrition.

We will be meeting with their nutritionist to develop a diet. We will also be testing her urine frequently, as well as her function.

It is all overwhelming. However, I am thankful for the excellent care Emma has available so close to home.
 
#97 ·
Our appointment at UC Davis was moved up to this morning. It was good to go. Emma has about 24% remaining kidney function. Our job is to prevent infection and support her function with supplements and nutrition.

We will be meeting with their nutritionist to develop a diet. We will also be testing her urine frequently, as well as her function.

It is all overwhelming. However, I am thankful for the excellent care Emma has available so close to home.
Best news in a horrible situation. Now you know and have a plan of action.
 
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