I'm not sure where you are getting the comment, "It's Just A Dog." At no time did I say that. No one here did. My point from the beginning was that our dogs are covered under our 4th Ammendment rights. If an officer comes to my house for any reason and shoots my dog for laying on the porch without making a threat, then believe me, I will pursue legal action to the ends of the earth. Did you not read what I originally posted or check out the website I found it on? It cites specific cases where people have been able to sue police officers in court and win. If the evidence is there, people have won. If the evidence isn't there, 100 new laws aren't going to change anything, and it sounds like more than a few of these cases will never be cut and dry, no one will ever know for sure what really happened. It is impossible to put laws in place covering every awful scenario in life, neat and tidy, without ever having unintended consequences
I hate hearing about tragic incidents involving dogs killed in front of their families. I'm a lot more concerned that my husband's best friend, who is a Police officer, (or any of the husbands, brothers or uncles mentioned on this thread) will be hurt or killed because he hesitates one night chasing a piece of scum down the block and is too worried about the correct way to handle a snarling dog that may or may not decide to jump on him. You say you're not talking about these type scenarios, but where do you draw the line?
And for the record, yes, I do believe that if I have control of my dog he has a heck of a better chance of surviving in just about any situation. If an officer comes to my house and I behave respectfully and in a non-threatening manner, immediately and properly restraining my dog, then I am giving my dog a pretty good chance at surviving. If my dog is alone in the yard and is shot and killed by a cop in pursuit when I'm not there to protect him, it will break my heart, but I will thank God that it was not one of my children caught in crossfire or the officer shot by a criminal. I'll be sorry I lost my dog to a tragic accident, but the responsible party in my mind will be the criminal trespassing on my property, not the man (or woman) putting his own life on the line trying to protect my community.
Comparing a snarling, barking dog to a teenager who yells at a police officer is apples and oranges. I can't imagine a teenager yelling obscenities at a cop being shot, but I can imagine where it could happen if a teenager comes charging at the police officer at 20 miles an hour, object in hand, screaming "I've got a knife and I'm going to use it on you!" That's essentially what a charging, snarling dog is doing. The officer has a second to determine if it's a bluff. If he's pursuing an armed suspect or serving a warrant to someone who may be armed and dangerous, what does that kind of distraction do to his odds of making it home to his family that night?
You may think that our police force is off the rails, but I choose to live my life believing that except for a few, they are good and decent people making the best choices they can under circumstances that are almost impossible for the civilian population to truly comprehend.
Check out your state and local laws, see if some changes need to be made, but be really careful about signing your name on some blanket statement on a website put up by a group who you can't fully verify background or true intentions.
My saying "It's just a dog", had nothing to do with you or what you posted, Nolefan. It's my speculation that thought is predominant in any review a police department makes after an officer shoots a dog.
All the cases we have read about lately have been ruled "justified" because the officers feared for their safety, by the police department after their "review". A dog barks and a grown man, a police officer fears for his safety?
You can try to take it to court, but there is no court that will rule against the officer if the police department rules it justified.
I did not sign any petition, actually that website didn't even open the petition so it was a mute point, but I would NOT have signed it in any case. Petitions are pointless and do nothing to change situations like this.
My point is there needs to be a culture change in the police force, lethal force should never be the FIRST resort when they encounter a family dog. It is happening too often, and it is happening with more frequency because the officers are being supported and protected when they make that decision to shoot a pet dog in their own home. And it causes me to seriously question the ability of those officers to accurately judge when a situation requires lethal force or not.