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Welcome Obi - now what? :-/

After the passing of our beloved Phoebe we started casually looking at Goldens available in our general area - both rescue and others. One popped out to me - even though I had never considered a boy - he got my attention - 2 years old and very good lines though he didn’t have any well care established and were behind on his vaccinations and having some skin allergies. They wanted a fairly substantial rehoming fee - no problem really though for the right dog. 100 miles away and they made me wait the whole week before coming to see him. I was excited at the prospect of welcoming another family member!

I went there today - but after a long meeting with him was very disappointed and felt like they misled me. The pup is EXTREMELY skittish. He was afraid to go near me at first. Unknown things, sounds or movements all send him running. He is very sweet, smart, obeys commands and is a beautiful English Cream - but there’s something seriously wrong with him mentally. This is likely largely attributable to him being brought into a family with a smaller dog that is beyond high strung - psychotic!! After a deep sigh of disappointment, I told them I really like him, but have to decline, as the results of bringing him home would just be too unpredictable even though I’m very good with them. I had fully expected to be going home with him - but his behavior was completely unlike a golden’s typical outgoing and happy demeanor.

They said they understood, and that they had others who were interested. I was in the process of leaving when they called and lamented over his skittish behavior - saying this was worse than they had ever seen before. They acknowledged that it would probably be a problem for anyone wanting to adopt him especially with other dogs - and then offered him for free. Otherwise they said he would probably end up going to a rescue. Knowing this, I couldn’t say no. So I brought him home to give him a chance...

So far it’s been an adventure. He wouldn’t get out of the car. I had to coax him close and then drag forward/lift him out. He didn’t want to go in the house but once the scary garage door was closed (VERY scary) I let him off the leash and he found his way inside. He won’t eat or drink. But I did manage to take him out a couple of times and he’s taken care of all his business. We have a very large house - he’s been hiding away in my walk-in closet and bathroom. I’ve put out food and water and after I’m done here I’ll go out and watch TV in hopes he warms up. Mostly he just tries to keep away from me as far as he can go in this big house. He'll come if I call him, I give him praise but he won't follow me at all so far.

There is much work to be done with this pup. I think the little dog he lived with terrorized him. His owners might have been a bit too strict too. When I give him the sit command he does it very well, but in his eyes it seems (to my gut instinct) it's not because he wants to please - it looks to be out of fear.

Here he is hiding in my closet. One day at a time right now I guess.... We may need some professional help but will start with love and assurances and try to build his confidence! Maybe this was meant to be and he'll come around. I don't know too many people would be able to manage him though. He looks much smaller in this pic than he really is - 85lbs - a real bruiser! lol


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He's a very good looking pup, but is going to be a LOT of work. Have you ever crate-trained a dog? By your description of his hiding in your closet, he may be the perfect candidate for that. He'll find a safe place - he needs a safe place. I feel he is overwhelmed by the big, open spaces of your house. By the way, it sounds like he may have been mistreated by his humans, not a little dog.
Thanks for taking him in - not everybody would.
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Thank you for saving him. Pilgrim is right, he is going to be a lot of work. And you are going to have to take it very, very slow with him. He may not want to go into a kennel right away, but you can try to create a safe place for him to retreat. If he likes your closet, I would let him go there.

Do you have a behaviorist near you? I highly encourage you to find one and work with one. For the short-term, let him acclimate. Don't have too many expectations for him now. Take it at his pace. If you push too fast too hard, you're not going to get anywhere.

He's a beautiful boy.


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He is beautiful thank you for taking him in..I have no advice, other than repeating yours, one day at a time...good luck, I'm sure he will come around, he s been through alot..poor guy....
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He is lucky to have you! The crate or a bed in a secluded place is a good idea, we all need our safe zone. Give him some time to get used to the household noises and he will be looking for your company before you know it.

My frightened rescue still can't take strange places very well but couldn't ask for a nicer companion. As long as she is in her yard and her home she does really well. Actually getting Sipsy last spring made all the difference. Who knew getting a confident puppy would make her so happy! Thoughts and prayers for you both. She will eat when she is ready but offer food when she can be alone and it's quiet, I found that a consistent routine really helped.

I will be anxious to hear about your progress. You will have a special bond with this one!
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He's a beautiful boy. It's day one so he just needs to feel safe and learn to trust. Maybe a little trail of chicken will get him out of the closet. If he is skittish I would just be really careful when taking him out and make sure he's on a lead so he doesn't bolt out of fear. He looks solid and healthy. I'm happy you took him and are willing to give him the life he deserves.

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As I thought might happen, things did get a bit better. My husband got home and met him while he was laying on the tile floor in my bathroom - and he immediately peed. (Not my husband - Obi) There have been a few little leaks with him the first day which I think are all nervous. Bright yellow pee too - they had him on Nutro Max Puppy and gave us the remaining bag - which is the wrong food for a 2 year old. :-(

Anyway, he liked my husband - maybe it's the testosterone thing. lol He playfully coaxed him to come out and visit us. He made it out and eventually up onto the couch plopped right down between us and stayed there for hours - pretty happy and quiet. I left him there (he wouldn't leave) and went to bed. My husband gets up super early and found him on the floor in front of the couch sleeping. By the time I got up he had him playing ball and running around - being a good boy.

He's had tons of water and several bathroom breaks and even a short walk - but so far won't eat. Since he didn't touch the food he was on, I mixed 50/50 puppy and senior food with a couple of tablespoons of canned Pedigree mixed a gravy with water. Phoebe loved the canned flavor - but no go for Obi - he's just not there yet - but by no means an underfed pup - he will be just fine when he warms up more.

I've never used a crate - though he does seem house trained and more comfortable today - maybe he won't need it. He would probably be scared of it anyway! We played a lot this morning and he's gradually reaching past his protective safety zones. I think around the house he will become very good in just a few days - but getting over this lack of confidence and fear of the new and unknown will be a much bigger long term project.

Will try to post back with more progress - so far I'm very happy we were able to save him. No telling what might have been the alternatives.
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I think he's made great strides. He looks a lot more comfortable.

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You're doing great! I don't do crates either but when my girl gets spooked I put her bed in the laundry room where it's dark and secluded, it helps her to settle down. She doesn't have the ability to calm herself and tends to get very focused & stressed on something (like a cat outside the window) Autistic? She also can't go on walks without total terror of anything that moves, even falling leaves when the wind blows sends her running for her safe place. It doesn't sound like your boy is this bad and feeling very confident he will probably come out of most of the fear.

It took more than a week before my girl would join us, this is big! The 1st time she met someone new she froze and stood there and shivered, panted and drooled. Her poor back legs shook so bad I was afraid she would collapse. If he met your husband and found common ground that is really awesome!

Puppy food at 2, pitiful. He may not like the food? You might want to choose what you are going to feed him and mix that to see if he is interested. Dogs are smart enough not to starve and will come around.

Thanks for the update and believe me when I say you have made wonderful progress in a very short time. Because he was on puppy food I'm guessing they were not too concerned for his well being, might be worth getting a full blood panel just to be safe. I'm so glad you took him in!
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Serendipity!! The right people matched with the dog who needs them, and the right dog matched with the people who need him. He will be a great blessing in your life, I'm sure.
Each one of our loved furry ones has their own special traits and gifts.

Your love, experience and patience is just the right fit for him. From what you have
written, I have to agree with others that he may have been mishandled by people who
dodn't know the nature of a Golden and their sensitivity and the result is the anxiety,
uncertainly and fear he is exhibiting. We all have confidence for you that you will give
him a very loving home, the stability and trust he needs, and most of all, LOVE.
(Phoebe is right there with you to help you.)

I have two twelve-year old Goldens who I took in ten years ago when they were the same age as Obi. They were an absolute mess: in fact, so bad that my neighbors made bets on whether I would give up on them. My vet recommended rehoming the male because I already had one male Golden with an extreme seizure disorder. Ten years later, we have all lived peacefully and lovingly together as a family. There have been no problems, and my two "rescues" are happy, well-behaved dogs.

Looking back, I don't remember anything being "work." It has been a privilege to see
them healed and living as whole dogs. I would do it again in a heartbeat! They are
wonderful dogs.

Look forward to some happy and fulfilling years with Obi!
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